long cycles with a break

[P Rock]

just curious to know what would be better in terms of long cycles. would it be better to do a 12 week cycle, complete pct and then go straight into another 12 weeks? or running a 20 week straight with no break in between?
i know time on = time off, but for the bros running the longer 20week+ cycle, wouldnt a break be better for the body?

[Consistency]

I'd go 20 straight... 12 on the 3-4 off then 12 on is to much of a hormone rollercoaster, probably worse for your body then 20 straight.

[Ntpadude]

just curious to know what would be better in terms of long cycles. would it be better to do a 12 week cycle, complete pct and then go straight into another 12 weeks? or running a 20 week straight with no break in between?
i know time on = time off, but for the bros running the longer 20week+ cycle, wouldnt a break be better for the body?

Time off is only needed to restore your balls to normal size, normalize your cholesterol, blood pressure and other things.

Its like this, I have done 10 week cycles, also did most recently a 30 week cycle. Guess what? Balls restore to normal size in just 8 weeks even after a 30 week cycle. For me PCT was no different after 30 week cycle for recovery then the 10 week cycles were. Also since I allowed my estrogen levels climb higher during the 30 week cycle by NOT taking aromitase inhibitors like l-dex, my cholesterol and blood pressure were much better this time then it was following an L-dex/arimidex taken 10 week cycle. I took only nolva and clomid to prevent gyno and did just fine. Even piramided the 30 week cycle so that the middle 10 weeks were at doses over 1 gram of testosterone. Because I allowed the estrogen to climb by taking only estrogen blockers instead of estrogen preventers, my cholesterol stayed well down within normal/healthy levels, where when I took arimidex on my prior 10 week cycle, my cholesterol was 220 and triglicerides were over 300!

[AustrianOAK14]

yeah time off is better with more time to recover from your previous cycle bro, imo its the way to go

[P Rock]

i always thought that the longer you stay on a cycle, it would be harder to recover.

[workdude]

i always thought that the longer you stay on a cycle, it would be harder to recover.

This is what I thought also.

[dtr98]

going to start a 28wk cycle soon, will let you know how it goes

[Ntpadude]

This is what I thought also.

Some guys have difficulties, but if you get a bottle of red kat or some good tongkat source and take all thru your PCT up to 2 months after your last inject, you will have happy, healthy, vigorous recoveries even after 30 week cycles. Of course do clomid and anything else to help your recovery but I believe tongkat and clomid make one hell of a powerful recovery combination.

[bigrthanu]

anyone with experience running a long cycle? your remarks? recovery?

[P Rock]

can you get tongkat at a GNC or is that a behind the counter type of product?

[joevette]

HCG is very important for longer cycles. Starting about halfway through at 500ius 2x a week. That way when you reach PCT your nuts are already big and full and all you have to do is restore the HPTA.

[bigjsheets]

Some guys have difficulties, but if you get a bottle of red kat or some good tongkat source and take all thru your PCT up to 2 months after your last inject, you will have happy, healthy, vigorous recoveries even after 30 week cycles. Of course do clomid and anything else to help your recovery but I believe tongkat and clomid make one hell of a powerful recovery combination.

red kat, tongkat....Never heard of either. Any more info??

[Jay Man]

anyone with experience running a long cycle? your remarks? recovery?

I just finished my PCT after coming off 36 weeks of Test Cyp/Winstrol, EQ/Deca and Deca/Winstrol. I recovered completely in 30 days. If your PCT is solid your good.

[floyd_turbo]

rule: time on = time off.... unless you run long then time off should be greater then time on

[Jay Man]

rule: time on = time off.... unless you run long then time off should be greater then time on

Why???