tren cycle..

This is my third cycle goal is to lean out, cut up and gain a couple of lbs of muscle. plan on doing cardion4 to 5 times a week for 30- 45 minute...and of course lifting 5 days per week. stats i am 28, 210, 6,2...about 13-15% bf..
What do ya think...
tren weeks 1-8 250mg per week
winny or anavar weeks 1-8 at 50mg per day...

and then pct at the end...
This is my first experience with tren, what can i do to protect my kidneys and should i take something throughout to keep from shutting down....I know that everyone recommends test along with this,,,, but i do not want to gain 20-25 lbs of mass....Thanks for everyones help..what can i expect from this cycle....thanks

Also i have 2 options on the tren...
pl tren acetate or ugf tren acetate...what do you think??

you have no test in there! get some test tren shuts you down hard even on test never mind without it. if you dont wana gain alot of weigh why use juice? i hate when i see people say i need to juice but dont want to gain to much :rolleyes:. No to mention not everyone gains 20-25 pounds per cycle. how much you gain depends on diet

you have a point jackman...i am also afraid of the frequent injections...what would you recommend for me to cut up, lean out, and keep the bloat down with not as frequent injections...

test cyp and tren enanthate

Yeah, if your afraid of injections, you better make sure you get some TREN Enan vs. Acetate, because if you don't you will have to shoot ED.

And taking Tren without any form of TEST is a huge mistake. Tren shuts you down hard bro.