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    Is Clenbuterol really anti-catabolic?

    I read that Clenbuterol is a powerful anti-catabolic and should be taken for a few weeks at the end of every cycle. I've also read that it isn't an anti-catabolic at all. I'm sure everyone can site reliable medical sources that argue both sides of that - but what about experience ??? Does anyone - any of you old big dogs out there - have any experience with Clenbuterol that makes you believe is is or is not an anti-catabolic ???

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    at certain doses it may be anti-catabolic, but at high doses it's quite actually catabolic.

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    I'm thinking of taking it for 2 weeks to harden up abit since im "off" right now, It is a cortisol blocker if that answers anything for you, Ive heard others say that cause of this statement people take it to "help" retain gains.

    I got Oxyflux's and they suck should I double the dosage or is that not safe? I was thinking of getting up to 8-9 pills a day instead of 6 cause these oxyfluxs suck ass!

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    to dr. evils statement how should I take them to harden up? at low dosages and high intesity cardio?

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    clen is anti-catabolic for approx. 4wks. then those effects wear off.

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    oxyflux sucks ass. i don't know about doubling the dose because some of the tabs are really strong while others have pretty much nothing in them, so it's risky to double the tabs...

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    Originally posted by flex321
    to dr. evils statement how should I take them to harden up? at low dosages and high intesity cardio?
    just don't go over about 140mcg/day, but this is hard to guage with oxyflux tabs because they're so inconsistent.

    high intensity cardio sounds fine, but don't forget the diet.

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    Well brutha, I am just getting off a 2 week cycle of Clen , and I do believe what I read, that if you are on it too long, it will cause receptor site reduction. In other words, it won't do much good after prolonged use as Dr. Evil kinda said. I did the 2, 3, 4, 5, 666, 5, 4, 3, 2, for 2 weeks, and didn't reallly see much.. except shaky hands and hard time sleeping at night.
    However, I am on my 2 weeks of ECA, and I feel better already this morning. I think the next go around I am going to take someone elses advice and do 2 days on and 2 days off. I think from my experience this works better.
    but yes, what Dr. Evil says it true, but however, it didn't do a whole lot for me, on that cycle I went on. But talk to me in about 4 weeks and I will tell ya what my gains are, when I mix it up alittle.

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    I hear ya, thanks Doc! sucks that I have these crappy oxy's but I cant waste them might as well take them. I might start out at 3pills the first day then increase. And as you say I guess I shouldnt pass 7 pills a day. I hope everything works out for me.

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    good luck.

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    Originally posted by flex321

    I got Oxyflux's and they suck should I double the dosage or is that not safe? I was thinking of getting up to 8-9 pills a day instead of 6 cause these oxyfluxs suck ass!
    I feel your agony bro. All I could get was oxyflux (they were free) and it is depressing.

    As far as anti-catabolc or catabolic there is no hard evidence claiming for either. I just like coming off a cycle with them.

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    sorry, i should have backed up my catabolic statement because it's sort of controversial.

    clen and many other beta 2 agonists have a way of making calcium ion channels in the muscles more permeable, causing calcium leakage and changing the gradient. this starts a series of chain reactions that lead to the release of calpains and proteases that degrade protein (muscle). combining calcium ion channel blockers with a clen cycle can make clen quite anabolic , however it's very difficult to time the intake of these blockers and they also make you tired as all hell.

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