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    big daddy j is offline New Member
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    just started cycle....1 question

    1-8 500mg wk sus250
    1-4 25mg ed dbol
    5-8 40mg ed winny(tabs)

    i cant get my hands on any clen . right now should i run some ripped fule or stacker 2 or something like that with the win.to cut the water weight down to min.?? thanks bros...

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    Equipoise

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    Fat burners won't help with water retention. What you are looking for is arimadex at .25mg or nolvadex at 10mg. Anti estrogen should help with water retention.

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    i would really like to cut some fat off as well..will the win help with that??

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    If you want to use both winny and dbol , I'll say you need to do a longer cycle. You don't want to run, especially those two, for 8 weeks straight. If you could lengthen the cycle to 12 weeks you can do the winny for last 6 weeks and give your liver a chance to recoup after the dbol. I don't know about fat loss, but it'll harden up nicely, winny that is.

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    Diet is what will cut the fat. Maybe a couple things can help but diet is #1

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    Ron is right diet and cardio will cut fat. Best fat burner on the market.

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    I agree with Ron, its all about the diet you run during AS wether you loose bf or not.

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    bro, extend the sust to upto 10-12 weeks
    8 weeks is too short

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    Don't try to cut and bulk at the same time! Do one or the other. I am bulking now and I reallly am not concerned about fat until I am done w. my bulker. You will not get all you can out of your gear if you try and do both. do the bulk for 8 weeks then start cutting at week 9 and on w/ diet and Rip fuel, clen , ECA etc.....

    Eat like a horse for the 8 weeks and gain like a mad man. Its harder to gain mass but its rather easy to cut fat.

    next cycle start a mad cutter. Eq, fina, winny t3 whatever?

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    Originally posted by thecoachman

    Its harder to gain mass but its rather easy to cut fat.

    lol, speak for urself buddy!

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    With what you have got... change it a bit to...

    500 mg sus for 10 weeks
    25 mg dbol ed for weeks 1-4
    50 mg winnie ed for weeks 8-12
    Clomid 3 days after last winnie dose
    ** optional 0.25 mg arimidex ed.

    This way you give your liver a break and make sure to load up on the milk thistle.

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