begginer course

**jonesmeister** · 03-13-2002, 07:44 AM

hey, i was wondering if u could give me your opinion on this stack im thinking of using,

height 5.7
weight 84 kgs
body fat 15

ive been training for 8 years on and off and now for 6 months really hard,

deca 200mg
sus 250 mg

8 weeks of each

thanks

**Methuselah** · 03-13-2002, 08:03 AM

Do you have enough gear to run it for 10 weeks? That would be the sweet spot.

**jonesmeister** · 03-13-2002, 08:15 AM

is ten weeks gona greatly improve things i.e overall gains etc rather than the 8

**Pete235** · 03-13-2002, 08:16 AM

If you're over 22yrs I would say that looks like a good choice. However, as Metheuselah said, 10 weeks would be better. Also I would recopmmend the following:

weeks 1-10 deca @ 400mg/week
weeks 1-10 sust @ 500mg/week
weeks 1-4 dbol @ 30-35mg/day

week 13 clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg x 10 days, 50mg x 10 days

* a) Have Nolvadex on hand in case of aromitization or b) run arimidex (liquidex) at .25 - .5mg day for the entire 10 weeks. Either or will keep gyno at bay.

**Big Al** · 03-13-2002, 08:20 AM

Having run both 8 and ten I really did think the extra two weeks we're necessary, other than that Pete has given some top advice.

Remember either ALA or milk thistle whilst on D-Bol

**jersey juice** · 03-13-2002, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Pete235
If you're over 22yrs I would say that looks like a good choice. However, as Metheuselah said, 10 weeks would be better. Also I would recopmmend the following:

weeks 1-10 deca @ 400mg/week
weeks 1-10 sust @ 500mg/week
weeks 1-4 dbol @ 30-35mg/day

week 13 clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg x 10 days, 50mg x 10 days

* a) Have Nolvadex on hand in case of aromitization or b) run arimidex (liquidex) at .25 - .5mg day for the entire 10 weeks. Either or will keep gyno at bay.

Definitely a better cycle to run ^

**BE_STRONG** · 03-13-2002, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Pete235
If you're over 22yrs I would say that looks like a good choice. However, as Metheuselah said, 10 weeks would be better. Also I would recopmmend the following:

weeks 1-10 deca @ 400mg/week
weeks 1-10 sust @ 500mg/week
weeks 1-4 dbol @ 30-35mg/day

week 13 clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg x 10 days, 50mg x 10 days

* a) Have Nolvadex on hand in case of aromitization or b) run arimidex (liquidex) at .25 - .5mg day for the entire 10 weeks. Either or will keep gyno at bay.

tha man has spoken!! always follow Petes advice!!

**jonesmeister** · 03-13-2002, 12:49 PM

thanks for the replies fellas, ive got enough for 10 weeks of decca and sus but only at the 200 and 250 levels , so i will go with that , but i have no clomid ,and will i need it .... could some thing like gabba do the trick at the end

**Dr.Evil** · 03-13-2002, 01:21 PM

i like pete's suggestion. you may consider eq instead of deca though cuz the estrogen from eq is more easily controlled than progesterone from deca. eq is also cheaper.