600mg Primo + test or not?

[Duke of Earl]

I normally do test based cycles - so don't shout at me, but was thinking about doing a primo only cycle like this -

14 weeks @ 600mg primo EW + 50mg Var ED

Anyone done anything like this?

I was thinking of trying it without test - but if I decided to add test what do you think the lowest dose should be? (bearing in mind I'm a fan of low dose cycles eg 350mg Test E EW)

My goals are to cut & not loose my hair or liver ( & yes I do use dutasteride & Liv 52 etc )

[Duke of Earl]

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[wolfyEVH]

why would you not want to do test? all steroids will shut you down to some extent

[Duke of Earl]

why would you not want to do test?

Have never not run test in a cycle - so wanted to try without & primo seemed the obvious choice (not gonna do deca or anything dumb like that)
Also I get hairloss on test even with dutasteride, topical spiro & nizoral!

How about with Tongkat + trib?

[wolfyEVH]

thats gonna be one expensive cycle you know. i would never do a cycle w/o test IMO

[Duke of Earl]

thats gonna be one expensive cycle you know. i would never do a cycle w/o test IMO

Not if I brew!
I have also always had test as the base of my cycles - just wanna try something else, however if I was to add test - what do you think the lowest useful dose would be, just for libido purposes (ie. not neccessarily to grow)?

Do you think 14 weeks is a bit long to run var? (Have run it for 10wks before without probs)

[Duke of Earl]

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[LILLEN]

I wouldn't use var without test. var makes your dick limp.¨
its fact. many people dont agree here, but it does give u limpdick.

[Duke of Earl]

I have used var with & without test - without test didn't cause me too many probs tho.
Was more interested in the primo / libido relationship.....

[NUTRI-VET]

I would run test with it. You will have better results.