If it was so good why did they discontinue it? Stupid. In the drug profile it sounds like a miracle drug. I wanna hit some with Winny and Prop so bad, seems like the perfect combo.
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If it was so good why did they discontinue it? Stupid. In the drug profile it sounds like a miracle drug. I wanna hit some with Winny and Prop so bad, seems like the perfect combo.
the reason negma the company that made parabolan discontinued the product is because raw trenbolone is almost immposible to find and very expensive. besides there are no medical reasons to use parabolan, that wouldn't be solved using other cheaper steroids.:)
why not use fina in your cycle IMO it is just as good if not better than parabolan was.
raw tren is very easy to find and is very inexpensive. esterifying the long ester to tren is very difficult and expensive and there is really no need because the only industrial use for tren is to put into cows. tren acetate will do just fine in them.
ok, why is tren supposed to be not for the novice? And you really think that fina is equal to Parabolan?
i have no problem with a novice using tren. i have never tried parabolan, so i don't know if fina is equal to it, but fina is still great stuff and will be a part of every cycle i take in the future.
then howcome when t-mag did an interview with G*C he said that he had to stop producing his tren beause he just could not find any tren because ttokkyo had bought out almost all of the market, and whatever he did find was way too expensive. although he did say before that it was redelly available.:unsure:Quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Evil
raw tren is very easy to find and is very inexpensive. esterifying the long ester to tren is very difficult and expensive and there is really no need because the only industrial use for tren is to put into cows. tren acetate will do just fine in them.
g man is wrong. he's not looking in the right market if he still can't find any. besides, his parabolan was shit.Quote:
Originally posted by ibiza69
then howcome when t-mag did an interview with G*C he said that he had to stop producing his tren beause he just could not find any tren because ttokkyo had bought out almost all of the market, and whatever he did find was way too expensive.
trenbolone (raw parent steroid) is going for about $7k USD per kg if i remember correctly. good luck trying to import raw steroid powder into the country though.
Not looking for a source or anything, as I don't need 2 1/2 lbs of tren, but where the hell would someone, a lab or otherwise, be able to buy that much raw sh**? :susp:
And if that is how much it goes for, what a f***ing markup these companies are charging!!! That means a bottle of TT tren costs $10.50 in raw material to produce?! Bastards...:sot:
the markup is for the labor of converting the powder into injectable form.
10kg goes for $4.5k per kg.
tren acetate is actually cheaper than tren by itself... :susp:
Ok who thinks the Ttokoyyo tren is worthy? I don't care about the mark up because I'm not down with trying to make my own shit...I'm not a chemist and I don't trust the sanitary aspect of making your own. Whoever has tried the Ttokoyyo version what types of gains did you get or what should be expected? I'm looking to stack it Winstrol depot. My supplier says it's good shit, but I'd like to hear more opinions on it. (I know you can make your own for way cheaper and I don't care about that - I just want to know how well Ttokoyyo version worked for you- thanks)
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negma stopped making it due to steroid abuse in that country with it's atheletes.....they pretty much have stopped making everything....except thermax i believe....
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Iwan2bsolid2
[B]Ok who thinks the Ttokoyyo tren is worthy? I don't care about the mark up because I'm not down with trying to make my own shit...I'm not a chemist and I don't trust the sanitary aspect of making your own. Whoever has tried the Ttokoyyo version what types of gains did you get or what should be expected? I'm looking to stack it Winstrol depot. My supplier says it's good shit, but I'd like to hear more opinions on it. (I know you can make your own for way cheaper and I don't care about that - I just want to know how well Ttokoyyo version worked for you- thanks)
your a sanitary person aren't you?? i had no problems with the homeade version....240 bucks is to much pay for trenbol 75....and that's the low end cost....you can make it solo for under 100
Doc is right, i did some digging and the price he listed is pretty acurate although i found 10kg for $6k per kg, i macau.Quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Evil
the markup is for the labor of converting the powder into injectable form.
10kg goes for $4.5k per kg.
tren acetate is actually cheaper than tren by itself... :susp:
for a number illiterate person like myself how much is 10kg (how much could that make?)- so I can get an idea exactly how cheap that is.
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10kg = 10,000g = 10,000,000mgQuote:
Originally posted by Iwan2bsolid2
for a number illiterate person like myself how much is 10kg (how much could that make?)- so I can get an idea exactly how cheap that is.
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1 10ml ttokkyo bottle has 75mg/ml, or 750mg.
10kg would give you 13,333 10ml bottles of 75mg tren.
so 10kg will cost $45,000 in raw powder. divide that by 13,333 bottles that can be made out of it and you end up with about $3.50 per bottle.
10kg=22lbs
:dg:
ok since I don't have $45, 000 on me right now how much could I get for about $100
You wont ever see that price in real world tho - more like $10-15K per kilo (smallest amount) but true its cheaper for large orders - btw: the macau people arent that great anyway - mainland cos are far better (slightly more oversight and much better facilities usually)Quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Evil
the markup is for the labor of converting the powder into injectable form.
10kg goes for $4.5k per kg.
tren acetate is actually cheaper than tren by itself... :susp:
you can't get raw powder in smaller quantities than 1kg from the companies i know of, but you can buy fina pellets legally here in the US.Quote:
Originally posted by Iwan2bsolid2
ok since I don't have $45, 000 on me right now how much could I get for about $100
Dr.Evil- where can I buy the pellets?
many companies - best are vet america and websa
Run a search on finaplix-h pellets my brother, your in for a big surprise. I'll get you started w/ one that i know of. just pm me, cause i don't know if i can post it.Quote:
Originally posted by Iwan2bsolid2
Dr.Evil- where can I buy the pellets?
I heard they were going to make a modern version of para..
if some fucking company in france could figure out how to attach a longer acting ester to it....why the fuck can't anyone else??
No offense intended-- But chill out a bit w/ the arrogance, a good way to get flamed.... i learned the hard way.
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Originally posted by R.I.E.N.G.
No offense intended-- But chill out a bit w/ the arrogance, a good way to get flamed.... i learned the hard way.
Who you talking too^
yeah that is a good question.....qoute the arrogant please....inquiring minds would like to know
sorry if i came off as arrogant :(
think he was referring to Punkrawk's offcolol language
Cycleon has the right idea, dont worry about it, not a big deal, just calm down a bit.
hmm...always thought the internet was the biggest condoning areas of freedom of speech....after all if that was not true this site sure as hell would not be here....
How long ago was the production of Parabolan stopped?
Is there still any chance that there is some original Parabolan on the market?
Or is it safe to say that if it's being offered then it is a fake or conterfit?
they do, trenblone by ttokkyo
that's not parabolan. it's trenbolone acetate.Quote:
Originally posted by juice junky jimbo
they do, trenblone by ttokkyo