i just started my first 9-week injectable cycle of Deca./Primo./Testestrone enanthate (very small doeses for 5 weeks)/+ Dbol. tablets, and what i've learnt is that Nolvadex can only be effective during a cycle to reduce gyno. and bloating, and the difference between it and Clomid is that Clomid is not as powerful as Nolvadex is in blocking the estrogen receptors, but is very effective if taken after a cycle to restore testesrone levels back to normal (which will also lead to maintaining the gained muscle mass from a cycle for a longer time). HCG as also been recommended to be taken during a cycle for the same reason of raising testestrone.

i've came to a conclusion that i wish is right: because im going through a cycle that is schedualed in a piramidic form (increasing doses and the beginning of the cycle then decreasing at the end), would it be a good idea to take HCG in the middle of the cycle (where doese are high) for only one week (one injection) while taking Nolvadex throughout the cycle in 50mg daily doses, then to go for a 2-week Clomid therapy after the cycle. I would've stuck to Clomid instead of Nolvadex during the cycle BUT i read that the both if combined and escpecially if HCG is taken right after clomid;"Athletes who have already increased their endogenous test-osterone level by taking Clomid and intend subsequently to take HCG could experience considerable water retention and distinct feminization symptoms (gynecomastia, tendency toward fat de-posits on the hips). This is due to the fact that high testosterone leads to a high conversion rate to estrogens"-Anabolic Review.com-, so as long as Clomid wont be as effective as Nolvadex in blocking the estrogen receptors during the cycle and Nolvadex doesn't play any role in increasing testestrone levels, and as long as i'll be going for an HCG injection during the cycle (to not totally ignore lowered testestrone), its better to use Nolvadex and save Clomid for the post-cycle therapy.

I haven't gone for neither Clomid nor Nolvadex yet because of a feeling that tells me i don't know enough about whats best for me yet and also for the new idea of adding some testesrone enan. to my cycle. that makes me a bit more confused!

thats as far as my knowledge about anti-estrogens can go, what do you guys think ? am i right about all this or am i missing anything??