1st cycle

**sensaispike** · 12-14-2004, 04:13 PM

ok i have been researching for some time, and i think i have a pretty good idea of what i want to do but just a fue questions...
what i was thinking of doing was a 12-15 week cycle
week 1-4 dbol 30mg's ed
week 1-15 enan 500mg a week, split up in to injections
week 1-15 nolva 1ml ed
pct nolva and clomid

my question is how does this sound and also i was looking on the effectivness chart and i was noticing that test sup. has a little better stats, would it be better to use that as opposed to the enan? if so would the dosage be the same? i will post history and stats later got to run...

L8ter...

**juiceinthehood** · 12-14-2004, 04:17 PM

12 weeks for 1st cycle is enough also drop the dbol just do a test e cycle only @ 400-500mg split dose for 12 weeks youll be happy
test suspension needs be shot ed some shoot it 2x a day
start pct 2 weeks after last test e shot

**sensaispike** · 12-14-2004, 06:52 PM

alot of people are saying that the dbol will help kick start the cycle, besides wouldient it just be that much better with the dbol???

**jaffry20** · 12-14-2004, 06:57 PM

Throw some GH in there at 150ius twice a day for 12 weeks, you'll love it.

**statuZ** · 12-14-2004, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by jaffry20

Throw some GH in there at 150ius twice a day for 12 weeks, you'll love it.

what the hell are you suggesting? thats just idiotic!

**jaffry20** · 12-14-2004, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by statuZ

what the hell are you suggesting? thats just idiotic!

hahahaha oh you caught on, hahaha.

**bignatt** · 12-14-2004, 07:04 PM

test susp? you know that needs to be injected like every other hour haha stick with the enanthate

**sensaispike** · 12-14-2004, 10:23 PM

yea sure GH maybe i could inject synthrol to..... look i did not ask for smart ass replys, so if we could keep it mature that would be great

**MER** · 12-14-2004, 10:28 PM

Good start but alot of people start with 10 weeks for the first cycle. Get a feel for it bro. First cycle did a 10 week cycle test e 500mg/wk and got some awesome gains. After cycle lost some strength but looked samed size, most of the weight lost was water I believe. Looked a little more hard in the end.

**bignatt** · 12-14-2004, 11:27 PM

well i think you should look into something a little bit more before you outright ask about it and have no idea and it wasnt a smart ass comment

**eport** · 12-15-2004, 01:16 AM

i would maybe even try a 10 wk cycle for you first cycle just to see how your body reacts to aas

**sensaispike** · 12-17-2004, 12:41 PM

would it really be that bad to go with the d-bol as well???

**juiceinthehood** · 12-17-2004, 12:46 PM

ur better off just doing a test cycle u will be impressed with the outcome

**Ejuicer** · 12-17-2004, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by sensaispike

would it really be that bad to go with the d-bol as well???

There's nothing wrong with using d-bol to jump start. I would personally use prop if I were you though.

**crunchnpunch** · 12-17-2004, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ejuicer

There's nothing wrong with using d-bol to jump start. I would personally use prop if I were you though.

I agree 100% but i think d-bol is a waste of money but that's another story

**sensaispike** · 12-19-2004, 03:25 PM

well i just want something to jump start the cycle, as far as the dosage for the d-bol is 30 mgs ed good? not that it matters but its the liquid d-bol, also why would you say go with the prop? the reason i was going to use enan is because you only have to inject it twice a week...

**sensaispike** · 12-22-2004, 09:14 AM

bump

**Soup** · 12-22-2004, 11:03 AM

The idea to run just enan only cycle is to see how your body reacts first and start there. you can add alot of weight & muscle on your first cycle. so do not complicate it by adding additional things until you know how your body will respond. add 1 variable at a time.

**TheBrent** · 12-22-2004, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Soup

The idea to run just enan only cycle is to see how your body reacts first and start there. you can add alot of weight & muscle on your first cycle. so do not complicate it by adding additional things until you know how your body will respond. add 1 variable at a time.

would test cyp be fine for the first cycle?

**c5529** · 12-22-2004, 11:43 AM

I think your cycle looks good. I don't see any problem with the d-bol as a kicker. I think you'll be very happy with the results of the cycle. With the d-bol and test e be careful that you don't push your strength too much as your muscle strength will increase far quicker than your tendons/ligaments can handle. I see too many people end up with torn ligaments on their first cycle. Again, it looks good to me. Let us know how it works for you.