To Winny or Not to Winny...

[DieselPlayer]

Sup guys...

I'm a bit undecided about adding ED injections of winny to my third cycle, a 12-week cycle of deca and enanthate (400mgs and 600mgs, respectively), which I hope to start towards the beginning of January...

For one, my source is charging a ridiculous amount per 100/ml bottle and I'm wondering if the results will justify the expense...

What makes winny so ****nnn special? I'm aware of the benefits (lean body mass/muscle hardening), but is this substance something most of you guys would recommend taking??

Feedback will be greatly appreciately...

Goals: 15 to 20lbs of solid, quality muscle....

[Ejuicer]

I wouldn't bother with the winstrol... save it for a cutting cycle and stick with the deca and test for you bulker. Winstrol doesn't belong in any bulker imo.

[toolman]

[QUOTE=DieselPlayer]Sup guys...

I'm a bit undecided about adding ED injections of winny to my third cycle,QUOTE]
THen drink it, it works just as well, a little is lost due to the double pass through the liver, but it is nominal in affecting the final results.

[Anhydro78]

I wonldnt even bother using it unless your BF% is in the single digits. If at the end of my cycle if Im not down to 7-8% BF I will be saving mine again. I have had my Zambons for a year know. I wont use them unless its worth. I payed 9 dollars a peice for them.

[arthurb999]

It will help you solidify your gains. Deca and winnie complement each other nicely. You can also take it weeks 10-15. Then jump right into clomid... it is out of your system in one day... therefore no lag time (no juice & no clomid).

[DieselPlayer]

wait, so winny isn't recommended? do most of you guys agree that winny should be dropped unless your body fat percentage is in the single digits after a cycle....I find it hard to believe that anyone's body fat percentage would be in the single digits after a bulking cycle...

feedback?

[bmwrob]

wait, so winny isn't recommended? do most of you guys agree that winny should be dropped unless your body fat percentage is in the single digits after a cycle....I find it hard to believe that anyone's body fat percentage would be in the single digits after a bulking cycle...

feedback?

That is why it is not generally used during a bulking cycle.

[arthurb999]

I think a good cycle would be...

500 mg test a week for 11 weeks
400 mg deca a week for 10 weeks
50 mg winnie ed weeks 9-13
0.25 mg arimidex ed weeks 1-13
Clomid starts week 14... 100mg ed for 2 weeks, 50 mg a day for another week or two (depending on how you feel)

Eat 4000+ cals & 300+ grams of protien a day, drink 1.5-2 gallons of water a day, get 8 hours of sleep a night, and train as hard as you can (pick one bodypart a day and destroy it).

You should be able to gain 15-20 on that all day.

[Anhydro78]

I think it is too expensive to use as a bulking drug. This is just my opinion. I would use a cheaper drug if your goal is to bulk.

[DieselPlayer]

hmmmm...some interesting insight...mixed opinions, of course...I suppose I'll continue doing some research and then a make a decision....thanks for your imput, fellas...and feel free to offer additional advice...PEACE

[PlasticFuture112]

if you want you can replace it with either eq or var. particularly var in my opinion. personally, i dont think that winny has to be used in the single digits of body fat but some may say so. it will work just fine with bf% anything less that 14. anything above means you need to stick to cardio for a while. no but take it off and ad either eq or var. i would choose var though but the stuff is also expensive. good luck with the decision.

[Anhydro78]

Im just saying that to experiance the full effect of Stanzolol you would have to have a low body fat %. I havnt used Winny yet, Im not that lean and the stuff is too expensive to waste in my opinion.