Bro's, I was going to use Dbol in my next cycle but I have been researching Anavar as well and it seems to give the same results with less sides. Does anybody that has used both have a view on this. ?
Bro's, I was going to use Dbol in my next cycle but I have been researching Anavar as well and it seems to give the same results with less sides. Does anybody that has used both have a view on this. ?
your kidding right broOriginally Posted by seanw
if you can afford to run 50mg ED for 8+ weeks, I'd do the var.
bang for the buck go with bols. dbols for sure for mass
var and dbol r in no way similar other than they r both 17aa
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
im sorta assuming he knows this.
var is good for strength and hardness. not really gonna put on mass like dbol will.
did u read his ?Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge
same results less sides cmon fit2belarge i dont think he knows
I used 40mg/day Var for almost 12 weeks with Prop, which I think looking back was too much. It took me six months to get my cardio capacity back fully -it's not as harsh as 17aa's but it's still tough on the lipids longterm. I think most people are smart to go no more than six weeks on it.
Personally I think the "mass" that comes from dbol is water for the most part. The gains on Var are all 100% lean, which makes more sense to me.
Everyboby reacts diferently do different stuff. I personaly don't like dbol because It's not done too much for me. I would give it a shot If you got the cash. Thats the only way to find out for sure! I don't know first hand, but I hear a-bombs blow you up like no other for kick starts.
bro var is great for strength and tone mostly for strength hainsOriginally Posted by seanw
dbol i only use to jumpstart cycles thats it its mostly water weight if not all water gain
it depends on ur goals bro these compounds will not give same results
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
i guess you're right. i saw some of his other post, i thought he knew this much.
I found this nice thread talking about something similar
http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=33667
A good in between would be oral-turinabol.......probably lose less appetite than on Var.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sounds good tooOriginally Posted by Badgerman
Originally Posted by Fit2bLarge
Guys I only respond to posts I can speak from experience on. I havnt used Dbol or Anavar, so no I didnt know. If I did know I wouldnt have asked the question. Now I know, so I will do some more research.
Last edited by seanw; 12-27-2004 at 11:22 PM.
that is the best thing to do good luck bro happy new yearOriginally Posted by seanw
singapore huh sorry to here that (just joking bro peace)
I just hear Var suppresses the appetite......probably why everybody gets so lean.
Oral-Turinabol was used by the track and field guys so it shouldn't cause much bloat.
I wish I knew which was easier on the lipids and liver
var is very light on the liverOriginally Posted by Badgerman
It all depends on your goals. It's hard to realy say whats gonna fit your stack untill you've tried each one. When you do research some look better on paper than others, but you will know when you find what realy works for you. The close to bottom line is all orals give instant gratification by way of strength, and mass gains. At the same time the level they wreck your liver and then kidneys can also be kept to a min.
D-Bol: More androgenic, significant size+strength gains, bloat, very toxic
Var: Almost completely anabolic, significant strength gains, mild lean muscle acquisition, and IMO the lest suppressive steroid there is.
Dbols for me made me gain lots of water, moon face, very bloated, high blood pressure, acne. As for the gains, water weight with moderate strength increase, which I lost most of it anyhow together with the water retention after I discontinued it. These were the thai anabols.
Vars, however, didn't give me any sides except for a 'slight' suppression in appetite for only 1 week to max of 10 days. After that, things became normal again. Strength gains starts in about 2 weeks, you'll notice that you're benching way more than before and not only your muscles get harder and leaner, you'll notice some gains in size. Gaining so much strength and nothing in size is physically almost impossible. Just because you don't get that initial bloat does not mean that it cannot pack as much mass as dbols can. If you compare pure muscle gains of dbols vs. Vars, I would still stick to Vars. Personally, I can do without the extra water weight.
But this all depends on whether cost is a factor to you since dbols are way cheaper. Everything comes with a price.
I dont notice a decrease in appetite on Var, however I do notice my strength flying up! alot of people say it takes a few weeks to start making strength gains. i'm 4 days in and did chest for the first time while on and my weights were way up. since its only in your system for 8-10 hours (not esterified) i think one can notice IMMEDIATE effects. the size and hardness seem to be more of a cumulative effect and take a few weeks to see. Im on primo and Var right now and it feels like Var brought back the sex drive a bit too (doesnt make sense but hey).
I always thought Var was for toning, hardening, vascularity.... not to much on strength and you keep your gains
Dbols is all strength and mass and water retention. lose most gains!!!
var increases strength singnificantly by increasing phosphocreatine synthesis. from what i read, powerlifters like anavar for the reason that it gives significant strength gains without a whole lot of added weight.
Originally Posted by HeavyHitter
Originally Posted by TheBrent
i'll let you know in about 2 weeks!!! hahahhaa
haha, nice. what dose are you taking? and with any other aas?
Anybody use both Var and Oral-Turinabol for a comparison?
im taking a Var only cyc just to pass time and stay hard until my next cyc!! 60mg ED. Actually today i just started clen as well!! Tryn to stay RIPPED!!Originally Posted by TheBrent
i took var w/ Tprop last cyc... amazing!!
no bro i havent, but the more i hear about it the more i want to try it. might just ad that to my shopping list. lol
Originally Posted by Badgerman
sounds good, how long is your cycle?
Originally Posted by HeavyHitter
i think the bro meant dbol and anadrol. but instead he wrote anavar.
Dbol and anadrol are alike.
trying to make it 8 weeks but right now only looks like 6Originally Posted by TheBrent
I was using sustanon, dbols, and deca....and strength gains were slightly less than using deca and vars alone. So, definitely not true that Vars are only for hardening and toning. I used about 30mg dbols, and 30 mg of Vars, so I think I am doing a fair comparison.
Originally Posted by HeavyHitter
yeah hitter youll be shocked at the ease of the reps with weight u normally struggle with....i find myself laughing after a set of bench because i know its not me doing all the work lol. i think youll get the same results with less var though bro....i dont see a need for more than 40 mg a day
You know what guys... i was kinda mistaking strength w/ muscle stamina. Like in my other thread i said not much strength but muscle stamina has been increasing dramtically.... i meant that my reps were doubling.... even on my fourth set, i wouldnt even be tired or struggle.... so i guess my strength has gone up then!!!Originally Posted by Duma
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(just to let you guys know.... my 5th set bench max out: 345lbs. so i think i got more in me)
Last edited by HeavyHitter; 12-29-2004 at 02:23 PM. Reason: forgot word
i would look into some turinabol bro! its cheaper than var and its in between dbol and var. im gon add some into my cycle in the next couple of weeks.
yeah ive never heard that before??????Originally Posted by MMA
12 weeks of even anavar is not the best idea....ive never had any issues whatsoever with it but ill only run it for 6 weeks.
Bro, why dont you guys start your own post, PM each other, exchange numbers or go on a date and exchange all that information. instead of jacking seans post.
DBOL + Femorra =poor man's var..
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