Keeping Gains

**Timbo** · 03-22-2002, 03:45 PM

I would like to hear what kind of gains that you guys keep for the rest of your life when you quit juicin. My goals are very modest, after a cycle or two, I would like to keep 10lbs of muscle on my body for the rest of my life. Is this a realistic goal, or should I expect my body to revert back to its skinny self after a year without AS?

My stats are: 32 years old, 150lbs 6-8% BF, been lifting hard for last 5 years.

**Dr.Evil** · 03-22-2002, 03:49 PM

it's realistic if you are not at your genetic potential already and the 10 pounds you gain won't put you past your natural genetic potential and if you train and diet properly.

**Shredder** · 03-22-2002, 03:53 PM

use steroids such as primo, eq , masteron , deca . These drugs are highly anabolic . It takes a while for them to work but the results are easilly maintainable.

**Rugby13** · 03-22-2002, 07:59 PM

doesn't clomid help for keeping gains as well???

**flex321** · 03-22-2002, 08:11 PM

rugby, your profile says you where born in 1980? I hope that fella with the white hair isnt you

your avatar im refering

**Methuselah** · 03-22-2002, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by flex321
rugby, your profile says you where born in 1980? I hope that fella with the white hair isnt you your avatar im refering

Nice back though!

**D00fy** · 03-22-2002, 08:24 PM

i was wondering myself also,post cycle to keeping gains,
am i thinking right?

-Keep Protein High
-Carbs could be stayed the same or dropped depending on the goals
-Moderate Training,DOnt over kill it
-supplement with creatine post workout with HIGH GI carb
-rest

is their anything else?

**Billmister** · 03-22-2002, 10:36 PM

there's a comment i heard in the gym about if you do squats or some type of leg excersise your testosterone level will rise??? is that true?

**BIG_JDAWG** · 03-22-2002, 11:43 PM

that's a good point. i have heard the same thing. it was something like since you are working your total body doing squats, that your body pumps more blood and test. resulting in better gains. now i'm not sure how true this is, or if it's all a croc of shit. maybe someone else has the truth to this???

**poppapump58** · 03-23-2002, 12:06 AM

yes, it is true.

**ryan26** · 03-23-2002, 03:17 AM

Very True. Squatting is one of the most important things for growing.

**shadow123** · 03-23-2002, 04:49 AM

if you want to keep gains can you take deca /primo together??

**Big Rush** · 03-23-2002, 05:44 AM

yes, i am not sure why, but squatting increases your overall growth...what makes me sick is these little shits juicing that only work upper body (with small legs of course) just to look hard. Peace

**Timbo** · 03-25-2002, 08:27 PM

My cycle is going to be deca 200mg per week for 8 weeks, already have the clomid for after the cycle. If I gain say 15lbs, should I be able to keep 5 of the 15?

**PunkRawk** · 03-25-2002, 08:31 PM

assuming it's 15 pounds of muscle(not water) and you get test levels back to normal quick you should be able to keep 13-15 of it...

**eradikate** · 03-25-2002, 10:17 PM

how quick is quick?? 3 weeks after your last shot usually isn't it?

**bad dude** · 03-25-2002, 10:44 PM

yea, according to some of the other post that i have read relating to similar cycles 3 weeks would be about right. although i could be wrong. read some of the past post and you should find you answer.

**G Child** · 03-25-2002, 11:14 PM

This is taken off a thread SK* posted:

Answer: When you start using your clomid all depends on what steroids you were using during your cycle. Different steroids have different half lifes and you should adjust your clomid intake accordingly. As we have seen above, if we take clomid when the androgen levels in our body is still high it will be a waste. We need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our clomid therapy. However if we take it too late we could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. By selecting from the list all the steroids you used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example if I cycled dbol , sustanon and winstrol I would use sustanon as it remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Anadrol /Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca : 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 3 weeks after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate : 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration