New Member
Hi guys, i needed some help on what type of substance i should use for a first-timer.
First of all i have 20 viles each of sus 250 and deca-durabolin from india which are totally legit.
My goals are to have a lean body, not amazingly huge, more like a models type body. I am 24 years old and have been lifting for 5 years following a very clean diet.
I need your help/input on which one of these substances i should use and how to use them, thank you for all of your help.
VET Retired
500mg sust for 10 weeks is a start.
New Member
i would go with the sustanon try doing it on a wednesday. one time a week for 10 weeks every wednesday. after the second week try it with some d-bol 10 to 15 mg of d-bol every day but not on non training days for the rest of your 10 week cycle.
Anabolic Member
wow r u seriousOriginally Posted by bigaj23
ok dont listen to this guy
your better off with a single ester test
i would go with a test e cycle @ 400mg per week broken down into 2 shots of 200mg every week for 12 weeks also take an anti e during cycle and for pct as well as clomid for pct
Anabolic Member
agreed, shoot it twice a week. Make sure you have the necessary anti e's b4 you start too
New Member
dats a good cycle. how much d- bol should b taken everyday is 10mg okay or should it b higher
Anabolic Member
u guys have to stop giving advice u dont even know what u are talking about
sust should be shot eod at the minimum it has short esters in it as well as long esters
Anabolic Member
this is ur first cycle u dont need dbol
stick with test enanthate @ 400mg for 12 weeks u will be happy with it if ur diet and training are in check
u have not mentioned anti e's or pct u sure your ready for a cycle
but u say have the gear already bro u should research first get gear second
1-12 400mg sust eod
save the deca for next time u will gain alot off sust especially since ur a virgen to this
VET Retired
Sust was designed to last for up the 4 wks. It does not "need" to be shot ed/eod. He does not have a single ester test so he'll have to use the sust.
New Member
how much d-bol should b taken everyday. is 10mg enough or should i go higher to 15mg. one of u smart guys answer.
Anabolic Member
okay internet tough guy
Junior Member
if your a first timer you don't need a lot of anything to get good results.
depending on your weight even a 250mg shot of sust once a week for ten weeks could yeild a hard gain of 10-15 pounds. well those were my results anyways.
I think you could get amazing results simply by taking 200mg of deca once a week and 250mg of sust every 3 to 4 days. juiceinthehood seems to favour single esters like test enth, or cyp but there have been discussions up before about whether a single ester or a combined (sust) is better on your first time around.
VET Retired
hahah! I like internet badass.okay internet tough guy
New Member
can somebody answer me.
Junior Member
big start a new topic and don't take d-bol your first time aorund
Anabolic Member
lmaohahah! I like internet badass.big what about the prop in the sus i mean theoretically u can shoot sus once a month but in our case (bodybuilding) thats not wise
VET Retired
Next time don't hijack other peoples threadsStart your own.
Stats. Cycle histroy. Goals from cycle. Then the cycle you're planning to run.
New Member
no its not my first time i just need the advice. 10mg of d-bol or 15mg everyday.
Anabolic Member
Ah the never ending debate about how often to shoot sust!!!!
VET Retired
Don't get me wrong. Sust seems to be best at ed/eod injects. I said you don't "need" to. Feel me?lmao
People are always counting the prop. What about the phenprop and others?
New Member
wow, thanks for ur guys advice, im leaning towards just using sus weeks 1-12 400mg eod (juiceinthehoods recomendation)
i have the gear b'cse i went on a trip to india so i thought i would pick it up, thats why i dont have any anti e's, this leads to the question of anti e's, what would you guys recomend for the cucle i listed above, thanks once again
VET Retired
First cycle. D-bol only huh? Not a good idea.
Research: testosterone
boldenone/EQ
nandrolone/deca
oxandrolone/anavar
stanozolol/winny <---yeah you can drink it.
methandrostenolone/d-bol.
letrozole, anastrozole, tomoxifen, clomiphine.
Read up!
New Member
no its not my first time can u just answer 10mg of d-bol or 15 a DAY
VET Retired
With what?
New Member
start ur own thread bigaj23, matbe u will get ur question answered there!!
Junior Member
at a loss for words really....
maybe i am just an idiot but did your sust 250 come in 1ml amps?
if so maybe it would be easier to shoot 250mg eod or 500mg eod... 500 seems like a lot for first time.
Junior Member
to answer your question bigaj.... take 3mg a day you have to divide the pill into 5ths with an exacto blade but that will work best for you.
New Member
yeah it came in 1ml amps so shooting is 2wice a week will be a total of 500mg's (2 1ml amps) is this too much??? there are a lot of mixed views on this...
Junior Member
my thoughts would be shooting 1 amp twice a week would be enough for you or if you wanna do it eod just 1 amp is sufficient.
VET Retired
lol Was that a joke Chocolate? 3mg d-bol?
"I Own You"
dont use either or, shoot both, 400mg of each was my 2nd and favourite cycle, ran it 4 10 weeks, great gains, minimal sides, then 4 my third cycle i added dbol 4 the first 6 weeks and halotestin 4 the last 4 weeks.
Junior Member
big yes br0 i was being extremely sarcastic man did you like that? baam!
i liked the exacto knife part myself...
Anabolic Member
250mg dbol ed for 18 weeks
no thistle needed
Junior Member
might as well make it 400mg juice
250mg seems a little light.
we will make a pill popper outta him yet.
Anabolic Member
lmao lets make it 500mg ed for 20 weeks
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