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01-17-2005, 02:35 PM #1New Member
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Sus 250 Or Deca..need Help And Advice For A First-timer
Hi guys, i needed some help on what type of substance i should use for a first-timer.
First of all i have 20 viles each of sus 250 and deca -durabolin from india which are totally legit.
My goals are to have a lean body, not amazingly huge, more like a models type body. I am 24 years old and have been lifting for 5 years following a very clean diet.
I need your help/input on which one of these substances i should use and how to use them, thank you for all of your help.
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01-17-2005, 03:01 PM #2VET Retired
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500mg sust for 10 weeks is a start.
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01-17-2005, 03:03 PM #3New Member
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i would go with the sustanon try doing it on a wednesday. one time a week for 10 weeks every wednesday. after the second week try it with some d-bol 10 to 15 mg of d-bol every day but not on non training days for the rest of your 10 week cycle.
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01-17-2005, 03:06 PM #4Originally Posted by bigaj23
ok dont listen to this guy
your better off with a single ester test
i would go with a test e cycle @ 400mg per week broken down into 2 shots of 200mg every week for 12 weeks also take an anti e during cycle and for pct as well as clomid for pct
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01-17-2005, 03:08 PM #5Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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01-17-2005, 03:10 PM #6New Member
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dats a good cycle. how much d- bol should b taken everyday is 10mg okay or should it b higher
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01-17-2005, 03:11 PM #7Originally Posted by longhorn814
sust should be shot eod at the minimum it has short esters in it as well as long esters
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01-17-2005, 03:13 PM #8Originally Posted by bigaj23
stick with test enanthate @ 400mg for 12 weeks u will be happy with it if ur diet and training are in check
u have not mentioned anti e's or pct u sure your ready for a cycle
but u say have the gear already bro u should research first get gear second
1-12 400mg sust eod
save the deca for next time u will gain alot off sust especially since ur a virgen to this
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01-17-2005, 03:14 PM #9VET Retired
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Sust was designed to last for up the 4 wks. It does not "need" to be shot ed/eod. He does not have a single ester test so he'll have to use the sust.
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01-17-2005, 03:15 PM #10New Member
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how much d-bol should b taken everyday. is 10mg enough or should i go higher to 15mg. one of u smart guys answer.
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01-17-2005, 03:15 PM #11Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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01-17-2005, 03:16 PM #12
if your a first timer you don't need a lot of anything to get good results.
depending on your weight even a 250mg shot of sust once a week for ten weeks could yeild a hard gain of 10-15 pounds. well those were my results anyways.
I think you could get amazing results simply by taking 200mg of deca once a week and 250mg of sust every 3 to 4 days. juiceinthehood seems to favour single esters like test enth, or cyp but there have been discussions up before about whether a single ester or a combined (sust) is better on your first time around.
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01-17-2005, 03:17 PM #13VET Retired
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Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
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01-17-2005, 03:18 PM #14New Member
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can somebody answer me.
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01-17-2005, 03:19 PM #15
big start a new topic and don't take d-bol your first time aorund
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01-17-2005, 03:20 PM #16Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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Originally Posted by bigaj23
Stats. Cycle histroy. Goals from cycle. Then the cycle you're planning to run.
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01-17-2005, 03:23 PM #18New Member
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no its not my first time i just need the advice. 10mg of d-bol or 15mg everyday.
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01-17-2005, 03:23 PM #19Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
Ah the never ending debate about how often to shoot sust!!!!
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01-17-2005, 03:24 PM #20VET Retired
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Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
People are always counting the prop. What about the phenprop and others?
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01-17-2005, 03:26 PM #21New Member
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wow, thanks for ur guys advice, im leaning towards just using sus weeks 1-12 400mg eod (juiceinthehoods recomendation)
i have the gear b'cse i went on a trip to india so i thought i would pick it up, thats why i dont have any anti e's, this leads to the question of anti e's, what would you guys recomend for the cucle i listed above, thanks once again
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Originally Posted by bigaj23
Research: testosterone
boldenone /EQ
nandrolone /deca
oxandrolone/anavar
stanozolol /winny <---yeah you can drink it.
methandrostenolone /d-bol.
letrozole , anastrozole, tomoxifen, clomiphine.
Read up!
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01-17-2005, 03:34 PM #23New Member
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no its not my first time can u just answer 10mg of d-bol or 15 a DAY
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01-17-2005, 03:38 PM #24VET Retired
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With what?
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01-17-2005, 03:38 PM #25New Member
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start ur own thread bigaj23, matbe u will get ur question answered there!!
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01-17-2005, 03:42 PM #26
at a loss for words really....
maybe i am just an idiot but did your sust 250 come in 1ml amps?
if so maybe it would be easier to shoot 250mg eod or 500mg eod... 500 seems like a lot for first time.
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01-17-2005, 03:44 PM #27
to answer your question bigaj.... take 3mg a day you have to divide the pill into 5ths with an exacto blade but that will work best for you.
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01-17-2005, 03:44 PM #28New Member
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yeah it came in 1ml amps so shooting is 2wice a week will be a total of 500mg's (2 1ml amps) is this too much??? there are a lot of mixed views on this...
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01-17-2005, 03:46 PM #29
my thoughts would be shooting 1 amp twice a week would be enough for you or if you wanna do it eod just 1 amp is sufficient.
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01-17-2005, 03:47 PM #30VET Retired
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lol Was that a joke Chocolate? 3mg d-bol?
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01-17-2005, 03:52 PM #31
dont use either or, shoot both, 400mg of each was my 2nd and favourite cycle, ran it 4 10 weeks, great gains, minimal sides, then 4 my third cycle i added dbol 4 the first 6 weeks and halotestin 4 the last 4 weeks.
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01-17-2005, 03:56 PM #32
big yes br0 i was being extremely sarcastic man did you like that? baam!
i liked the exacto knife part myself...
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01-17-2005, 03:59 PM #33
250mg dbol ed for 18 weeks
no thistle needed
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01-17-2005, 04:02 PM #34
might as well make it 400mg juice
250mg seems a little light.
we will make a pill popper outta him yet.
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01-17-2005, 04:09 PM #35Originally Posted by Chocolate
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