Aright How about this FOR a Frist CYCLE..?

**D_B_rooking** · 01-17-2005, 10:16 PM

Test e 250mg 1 injection every 5 days wk1-12
Test prop 50mg ed to front load wk1-4
nolva 10mg ed

Pct
nolva 20mg ed wk15-18 and the 3 weeks before the pct
clomid day 1 300mg, day 2-11 100 mg, day 12-21 50mg

iv studied alot because the frist time for everything is always the best.. im pretty hyped up on this cycle... so flame it and any adjustments on the pct i know it will probley need it

Thanks guys,

D_B_rooking

**peump** · 01-17-2005, 10:20 PM

bump the test to 500mg

**D_B_rooking** · 01-17-2005, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by peump

bump the test to 500mg

500mg every 5 days... even with the prop....????

**jgg1221** · 01-17-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by D_B_rooking

500mg every 5 days... even with the prop....????

i think he means every 7 days, once a week

**scotttiger54** · 01-17-2005, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by peump

bump the test to 500mg

this suggestion right here would set you straight. everything else looks fine. just so you know, if i'm correct, 200 mg is about all the test your body produces/week so after shutting your natural test down and injecting yourself with it your basically only putting 50 more mg's in/week and thats not squat.

**Iowa** · 01-17-2005, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

... if i'm correct, 200 mg is about all the test your body produces/week so after shutting your natural test down and injecting yourself with it your basically only putting 50 more mg's in/week and thats not squat.

The body produces approximately 40-70mg test a week. It varies from person to person, but the numbers usually fall in that range.

**longhorn814** · 01-17-2005, 10:40 PM

you may want to run prop the last couple weeks following your last shot of test e until a couple of days before PCT is supposed to start. It should make recovery easier instead of just gradually having test levels fall for two weeks until you start PCT

**scotttiger54** · 01-17-2005, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Iowa

The body produces approximately 40-70mg test a week. It varies from person to person, but the numbers usually fall in that range.

learned somethin new... i wasn't giving that figure with complete confidence. good to know though for future ref. still, i feel that 500mg/wk would be a far more effective dose as would most members here on AR

**D_B_rooking** · 01-17-2005, 10:44 PM

well whats goin on with the test e then
1. 500mg 1 a week
2.250mg 1 a week
3.250 every 5 days

**scotttiger54** · 01-17-2005, 10:45 PM

it would def be in your best interest to run the test en. at 500mg/wk....250mg on mon morning and 250mg on thurs evening

**D_B_rooking** · 01-17-2005, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

it would def be in your best interest to run the test en. at 500mg/wk....250mg on mon morning and 250mg on thurs evening

hey bro thats all i needed to know... thanks man

now about the pct.. does it look alright....??

**scotttiger54** · 01-17-2005, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by D_B_rooking

hey bro thats all i needed to know... thanks man

now about the pct.. does it look alright....??

the only adjustments there is to start the pct exactly 2wks after the last injection of en. and it might be better to bump the prop up to 75mg/ed. this also would be far more effective.

**Consistency** · 01-17-2005, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

it would def be in your best interest to run the test en. at 500mg/wk....250mg on mon morning and 250mg on thurs evening

yeah do the test every 3.5 days.

I think 50mg of prop ED is plenty to kickstart the cycle. If he did 75mg ED that would be over a gram of test a week! and its his first cycle

**hawkeye1877** · 01-18-2005, 01:15 PM

yeah i hit the test every 4 days and do 3/4 ml at 250 so its like 325mg a week

**D_B_rooking** · 01-19-2005, 08:13 PM

im gettin enough prop to run it 50mg ed for 40 days.... should i just run the hole 40 days or just do 4 weeks worth...??

**Consistency** · 01-19-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by D_B_rooking

im gettin enough prop to run it 50mg ed for 40 days.... should i just run the hole 40 days or just do 4 weeks worth...??

well then, run some prop at the end like this

wk 1-4 Prop 50mg ED
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg
wk 13,14 Prop 50mg ED
start pct 3 days after last prop injection (2 weeks after last test e injection)

I would actually run the prop at the beggining for 24 days instead of 28 (or else you will be 2 days short at the end.)

**D_B_rooking** · 01-19-2005, 08:43 PM

badass never thought of it like that...... sounds like ill get better gains and come off the cycle easier....

***xxx*** · 01-20-2005, 03:11 AM

what r your stats? how can u advise somebody a dosage if u don t know stats? may be 250 mg e4d is ok for him...sometimes I don t understand u guys...

**Consistency** · 01-20-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

what r your stats? how can u advise somebody a dosage if u don t know stats? may be 250 mg e4d is ok for him...sometimes I don t understand u guys...

hey, maybe I dont understand you.... why dont you check his profile and voila there are all his stats. Not to hard

**D_B_rooking** · 01-20-2005, 11:59 AM

yea its in the profile...

**toolman** · 01-20-2005, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

hey, maybe I dont understand you.... why dont you check his profile and voila there are all his stats. Not to hard

I agree...right away guys say bump up to 500mgs. While that is not bad advice, it is not always needed. I gained 24 lbs on my first cycle of 250 a week of test. If your diet, and lifting is on, you can grow nicely off low dose cycle.