Using Deca Alone....

[dazbo]

A mate of mine, who does boxing, wants to increase muscle hardness and definaitio n while burning fat but not putting on too much body weight.

He has decided to use deca on its own for this which he has just started.

The thing is, from what Ive researched afterwards, the deca shuts down your HPTA very quickly. So am I right in thinking his sex drive etc is going to be pretty much zero while on ? Will he need to use some sort of test or other steroid with it (Bearing in mind the above) to help with this ?

Also, Firstly I know there are other steroids he could use for definition and fat burning etc but he chose this one because of the help it gives to joint pain etc (He has an ankle problem).

Also, originally is he going to need to use clomid as well as nolva when he starts his PCT (18days after) ? Or maybe HCG whilst on cycle will help with the above problems - if I am right ??

Thanks

Darren

[tycin]

add some test for sure! deca alone is a bad idea! and no need for hcg, but he'll need some nolva and b6 to run thruout

[Ejuicer]

Deca will shut him down hard... He should always run test with it at 100mg above the deca level... and as far as using it for hardness and definition deca is not a good choice because of the high bloat you get with it.

[dazbo]

I didnt think he would need nolva while on the cycle either GSXXR. Maybe I should tell him to use 1 20mg every 3rd day while on then finish them off when he does pct along with his clomid? What if I told him to include some winny ?? or Tren be a good idea ?? He doesnt want to gain too much weight even though his diet is pretty much cutting. He does a LOT of cardio inc his boxing along with some weights.

If anyone could spell it out to me what he needs I'd be grateful because Ive only just started my first cycle and dont know much !

thank guys - v quick replies !!

[Chocolate]

winny all the way if he is looking for muscle hardness and def.

[groverman1]

I agree go with winny for hardness or some anavar. I am still amazed at people who cycle ear without having any basic knowledge. IMO tell him to stop and learn more about the game.

[Chocolate]

try using a winnie and tren ace mix or shoot each eod.
i'm sure your friend also has to be mindful of his weight class so a base test and deca might be too much for him.

[igotubabe]

I'm new and this thread I started should answer all your questions. Copy and paste these into your address bar.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=141630
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=143870

[Chrizzum]

try using a winnie and tren ace mix or shoot each eod.
i'm sure your friend also has to be mindful of his weight class so a base test and deca might be too much for him.

I would go with ed on the winny.

[igotubabe]

This IS the Deca thread of ALL Deca threads. Extremely nice info. Hooker.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230

[Blown_SC]

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[Ammar]

This IS the Deca thread of ALL Deca threads. Extremely nice info. Hooker.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230

I agree, check that thread out. Its very informative. I would highly recommend running test with anything.

[Jantzen4k]

if you dont want your dick to work, use decca alone

j4k

[dazbo]

So how badly will he notice things on its own ? Will it just not get up wen he asks it to ?!!
Will it happen in the first week or will it take a few weeks ?

So in the end, it sounds good to use winny with it then pct needs to include clomid (And nolva cos he got it)?

How much winny and how often ? Is it OK to have one injection of 3ml say ?

thanks again guys !

[big_tone]

if you dont want your dick to work, use decca alone

j4k

geez, that is sure scary lol.

[buckwheat]

im the few that has done a lone deca cycle with great results and no deca dick.ive done two deca cycle.first time i didnt use clomid or anything.25pounds kept.first time doing any as.what i know now ,i would never do it like that again.i add test.

[dazbo]

anymore info for this post please ? I have showed him this post and he said he will inc some thing with it but pref summit thats only 1 extra injection - preferably that he can include with the deca injection and do it at the same time. I thought maybe he could do 8tabs per day of winny ?? this way he doesnt have to inject - that sound ok ? or is dose too high/low ?

thanks again
darren

[buckwheat]

how many mg per tab

[dazbo]

2mg per tab

[Big_Lex]

I would go with ed on the winny.

for boxing? i wouldnt even touch deca winstrol my friend the way to go for boxing deffinately

[dazbo]

Well its kinda too late now. There are a lot of reasons why he chose it as I said at the top. If winny is the way then he will prob be getting some of that to go WITH the deca. So tabs will be OK if they're available yeah ??

thanks