i need your idea????

hi,

I am a bodybuilder coming from Japan,i 24years old,80kg 165cm,15%BF,i have a national competition in July 13th,


now i am realising that i have total 15weeks left before the contest ,now i have sust ,deca,win tab ,clomid in hand,but i can buy other things such as clen,t3 ,anaver,masteron ect.if need,
do you think i have time do a small bulk cycle,then have a rest ,then do a cutting cycle within 15 weeks ,
and it is my first cycle,if it is not safely for a newbie i will listen to you,if you were i,what would you do?:lift:

IMO 15 weeks isn't enought time to do a bulking and a cutting cycle. I guess you're gonna have to decide either to bulk or cut. I don't think it's a good idea for you to bulk at this point since you're already 15% bodyfat and you're gonna be competing. You might want to cut up don't you think. just my opinion though.

JMO, i think your a little light to work on cutting up

Why not run a bulking cycle, eat clean clean clean, and use some wintrol for the last 6 weeks, and maybe fina.

you could also use clen post cycle too.

you can do a long 14 week cycle with some hcg in the middle. don't forget the arimidex, especially close to the show.

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Originally posted by Iron horse
JMO, i think your a little light to work on cutting up

Why not run a bulking cycle, eat clean clean clean, and use some wintrol for the last 6 weeks, and maybe fina.

you could also use clen post cycle too.

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Iron Horse is right. I didn't realize you were 176 lbs and 5'4" tall.
Do a clean bulking rather than cutting.

Uerukamu- Welcome to the board.

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Originally posted by Iron horse
JMO, i think your a little light to work on cutting up

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i'm not disrespecting your opinion, but if his bodyfat is pretty low, 5'4" 174lb can be pretty impressive if he can make the light weight division.

thanx to you good guys input,
i will do carbio right now to cut up
could you give me some detail,i am a newbie,it is my first cycle,i know i should not be too hurry,
1,bulk clean cycle,
250mg sust2501-8week,
200mgdeca 1-12week,
50win tab ED 8-contestweek,
it is enought to me,
should i add some Clen or anaver or d-bol in the cycle

2,cutting up cycle,i have no idea how to do??

those doses are very light. also, i don't like using deca before a competition because it's so hard to get rid of the progestenic deca water.

here's what i'd recommend starting next week

t200 500mg/wk 13 wks
eq 400mg/wk 10 wks
winny: 25mg/day wks 3-10
tren (fina): 60mg/day wks 11-15
anavar: 40mg/day wks 11-15
hcg: 5000 iu/wk wks 10-11

arimidex: .5mg/day as needed to get rid of water retention and bloat. wks 14-15 use .5mg/day mandatory.

clomid: wks 16-18

btw, that was a very long cycle, but that's the best thing to do for now since you asked so late. in the future you should prepare a nice bulker about 30 weeks away, then take 10 weeks off and hit a hard cutter to prepare for your cycle.

take 16-18 weeks off after this cycle before hitting another one.

thanx,Dr.

i think i have not enough time to buy all what you said,i am too late,
the next contest i will try this

ok. good luck.

btw, don't use that for your next contest. that was only a cycle that i put up for your present situation. the next time you need to start your bulker way earlier and take a break then do a cutter. the 15 week cycle is too long.

you said my sust+deca dose is too light,
how abou i shoot them every 4days?

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Originally posted by mchshz
you said my sust+deca dose is too light,
how abou i shoot them every 4days?

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that's fine, but can you get equipoise (boldenone) instead of deca?

ok,i will do a 12 weeks cycle

yes ,i think i can get eq,but it will take some time,the supplier i buy deca don not have it,
i think the cycle has already starting when i get eq, if i can use eq in the last 6weeks,is it helpful?and how to use eq with sust250,i will try my best to get it as quickly as i can


do you mean eq do not have much water retension like deca?

when you get eq just switch the eq in place of deca in your cycle. eq has slightly less water retention, but that's not the point. the water from eq comes from estrogen, something that's very easy to prevent. deca's water comes from progesterone receptors. this is almost impossible to prevent or get rid of.

thanx,
then inject how much eq/week??

its possible to bulk the first 6 weeks since most gains come in the first month and dimish there after.. you drop the bulking revert over to cutting on anabolics.........

its pretty strenious but i've seen guys do it at my gym so its possible .........

thanx for your input,

i dont know if the bulk gears useless for prepare a contest ?
and if i cant get any EQ,
when should i stop the last Deca inject.? one or two weeks before stage??:)
i know 15weeks to do a cycle is too long,i will do 12weeks,
because it is my first cycle,i should not hurry

stop the deca at least 4 weeks before the show if you can't get eq.

ok i know,if i get eq i will do through 12 weeks,
i have a question about clen and eca,
i know use clen 2on2off ,then eca,
clen 23456666665432,but how much is 1 tab clen ,20mcg and .02mcg???
i have 20mcg /tab Clenbuterol HC in hand,
what is ECA,can i use fatburn supplement to instead of it??
can i use urine to cut water,how to use it??