Question about Tren

[Moosepellet]

I tring to bulk up as much as I can, but trying to stay rather lean too.


Cycle #3
1-6 TEST ENANTHATE 600mg wk
1-6 EQ 500mg wk
6-11 TEST ENANATHATE 600mg wk
6-11 EQ 500mg wk
6-11 TREN 75mg ED
6-11 Winny 50mg ED
11-16 TEST ENANTHATE 600mg wk
11-16 EQ 500mg wk
16-18 TEST PROP 100mg ED

PCT
18-21 Clomid 300mg for the first day, 100mgs for the rest of the time



Anti's
1-18 LIQUIDEX .5mg ED
1-18 LIQUID TOMOXIFEN 20mg ED


*Thought about running Clen for the entire 18wks, but haven't decided yet. Also might consider running the TREN for 10wks instead. What do you think, need to also invest in some injectable B-6 too. If joints get too bad I will throw in some DECA(or would that be stupid)

[w_rballs]

ok u dont need injectable b-6. i dont teven think they make it. just get regular b-6 and run it @ 200mg/day during the time u are on fina and for about a week afterwards. also up the length of the fina. 6 weeks isnt enough. i would for 8 week possibly even 10 if u have used it before. fine does wonders for me the longer i have used it. but make sure to take some milk thiustle and drinkTONS of water

[juiceinthehood]

pct does not line up and not enuf tren go longer
why didnt you just write
1-16 eq
1-16 test e the layout is a mess

[Moosepellet]

Were the hell do you get milk thiustle at? Just to let you know there is an injectable B-6, my best friend used to take it all the time. Its just now that he's gone, I don't have the plug on it anymore. I will probably consider running the Tren Acetate for 10-12 wks, according to a lot of member on this board its pointless to run only 6wks, we'll just have to see. I just don't want my liver to go to ****.

[Thrower74]

I would change things up a little. Looks pretty good though: I would add the tren in at the start personally.

week 1-8: tren @ 75mg ed or eod
week 1-16: EQ @ 500mg/week
week 1-16: test enan: @ 600mg/week
week 16-18: prop @ 100mg eod
week 16-18: winny @ 50mg/day

I would use the nolva only if signs of gyno occure. I don'yt think you will need to use it during the cycle as long as you are using l-dex.

[juiceinthehood]

for joints use gluco not deca deca wont go well with tren
dosinex will help with deca gyno but its pricey

[Moosepellet]

I'm a little prone to gyno that why. I don't want to risk it, its only money.

[juiceinthehood]

better safe than sorry

[Moosepellet]

Sorry juiceinthehood,

I noticed that after I posted the tread, any comments on the Clen. Should I run it thoughout the entire cycle 3days on 2day off. Friend of mine just started using it and hes getting pretty cut. Though about taking 100mcg on the days that I would take it.

[Moosepellet]

Does the anti's that I'm going to take will be enough, I heard that letro is better than liquidex? What do you guys think

[stayinstacked]

If I was going to run clen for that long I'd include Zatiden in the cycle. It will up regulate your beta 2 receptors and make the clen more effective the entire cycle, none of this on and off garbage.

[IGOTJUICE007]

I tring to bulk up as much as I can, but trying to stay rather lean too.

Aren't we all, unfortunately for most of us it is pretty unrealistic to gain lots of mass and cut in the same cycle. Not saying it is impossible but I see this too often where people try to run a bulker and a cutter in the same cycle....I think you would be better running 2 shorter cycles (bulker-cutter) with time off in between obviously.....

[Hazard]

im a fan of running a longer bulkin/lean muscle cycle.... or a short/medium length cutter cycle... but not both at the same time.

when im adding mass i like to keep it long so my body has time to adjust to the new weight..... thus helping to maintain gains.... thats my theory anyways....

when i cut i plan on keeping it around 12 weeks or so....

i say go for one or the other

[juiceinthehood]

run clen with ketoifen

[Mesomorphyl]

do not run the clen all the way through, save for pct. how about running 12.5mcg of t3 to support your thyroid for a clean bulker all the way through?

[ducati996]

I would not run the clen all the way through. I am currently using clen for 3 weeks and eca for 3 weeks and starting over. Once your body temp drops to normal the clen is not as effective.

[Moosepellet]

The reason why I said three days on, two days off. Is that it acts like a histamine and your body will get used to it. Haven't decided on if I want to run clen, my friend said that he feels all geeked out on it, can't stop shaking.