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  1. 02-10-2005, 12:12 PM #1
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    how much gear would somebody have to do to create a birth defect?

    I've always wondered about this. How much gear do you think it would take to f*ck with birth?? I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger has 4 kids, but isnt it true that doctors had to do a bunch of procedures to him to allow it? How many on here have kids, and what was your steroid experience?
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  2. 02-10-2005, 12:25 PM #2
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    I have read no medical studies that show AAS contributes to birth defects.

    I have a ten month old.

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  3. 02-10-2005, 12:25 PM #3
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    3 kids, which makes me a lightweight compared to a couple of the other reproducers here

    I have not heard of ANY defects ever. Most of the problems come with too much juice and shooting blanks........
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  4. 02-10-2005, 12:27 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel
    I have read no medical studies that show AAS contributes to birth defects.

    I have a ten month old.

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    Let me rephrase........

    If the man is on AAS there is nothing that shows it contributes to birth defects. However, If the women is running AAS, there may be issues.

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  5. 02-10-2005, 03:59 PM #5
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    AAS has no negative impact on sperm quality, it does however lower the quanity. I'd be more worried about not having kids than having screwed up ones.
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  6. 02-10-2005, 04:02 PM #6
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    How many correctly ran cycles would you have to do inorder to "shoot blanks"
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  7. 02-10-2005, 04:06 PM #7
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    Depends on the person. Could be one, could be 100.

    Do you mean after recovery or during? Because almost all peoples sperm count is lowered during cycle, but for many it doesnt come back. It's just one of the risks we take, even with propper precautions.

    Quote Originally Posted by PiecinItUp
    How many correctly ran cycles would you have to do inorder to "shoot blanks"
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  8. 02-10-2005, 04:14 PM #8
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    i have never heard of aas causing infertility/but hey i dont know much about it
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  9. 02-10-2005, 04:15 PM #9
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    It happens, trust me.

    Quote Originally Posted by getbig888
    i have never heard of aas causing infertility/but hey i dont know much about it
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  10. 02-10-2005, 04:49 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Depends on the person. Could be one, could be 100.

    Do you mean after recovery or during? Because almost all peoples sperm count is lowered during cycle, but for many it doesnt come back. It's just one of the risks we take, even with propper precautions.
    For many it doesnt come back?///...uh oh..can u elaborate...i want kids someday
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  11. 02-10-2005, 04:52 PM #11
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    wont clomid increase sperm count
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  12. 02-10-2005, 04:55 PM #12
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    If you stay on steroids for a long period of time, your endocrine system can become permenently fried. Meaning no amount of post cycle theropy can bring back what is lost. I'm in that situation, i'll be doing test for life. A buddy of mine did a 20 week cycle and followed propper PCT, but even after visiting many endocrinologist, still has low test levels which were high before his cycle. It happens, not THAT often, but it does happen.

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    For many it doesnt come back?///...uh oh..can u elaborate...i want kids someday
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  13. 02-10-2005, 04:55 PM #13
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    Yes, but in many, there is no turning back. This usually happens with heavy long term juicers though.

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  14. 02-11-2005, 06:11 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Depends on the person. Could be one, could be 100.

    Do you mean after recovery or during? Because almost all peoples sperm count is lowered during cycle, but for many it doesnt come back. It's just one of the risks we take, even with propper precautions.

    bdtr is 100% correct.

    I would like to add that AAS is NOT an effective form of birth control. You can knock someone up while on.

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  15. 02-11-2005, 06:20 AM #15
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    Diesel, its REALLY good to see you around again. How are things with your kid and all?
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  16. 02-11-2005, 06:31 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Diesel, its REALLY good to see you around again. How are things with your kid and all?

    My son is ten months old already. (Where does the time go?)

    All is well in both business and personal right now. (Son is teething right now so sleep is at a minimum. lol)

    Sorry for my absence, 'life' has gotten in the way over the past year.

    Thanks for the kind words bro.

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  17. 02-11-2005, 06:35 AM #17
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    Well i hope to see you around more, we need more big manimals like yourself. Great to hear about your kid!
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  18. 02-11-2005, 06:37 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Well i hope to see you around more, we need more big manimals like yourself. Great to hear about your kid!
    Been clean almost two years now.....still standing at 280-285...

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  19. 02-11-2005, 06:38 AM #19
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    **** two years clean? Ever comin back on? I'm shootin to be the first to break to break the 1000 barrier of solid muscle lol.
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  20. 02-11-2005, 06:40 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    **** two years clean? Ever comin back on? I'm shootin to be the first to break to break the 1000 barrier of solid muscle lol.
    LOL

    Hell yeah I'm coming back. Hopefully start around the end of March. (Just need to get 'things' together. )

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  21. 02-11-2005, 06:41 AM #21
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    Awesome.

    PS. sorry to hijack this thread, but its allowed cus im a mod.. so shut up.
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  22. 02-11-2005, 06:42 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Awesome.

    PS. sorry to hijack this thread, but its allowed cus im a mod.. so shut up.
    And I'm a retired one.

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  23. 02-11-2005, 06:43 AM #23
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    ..and i will still enforce his will on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel
    And I'm a retired one.

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