Newbie First cycle help??

[Tyson2481]

Hey bros,
I am currently 30 yrs old with about 15% BF, weigh 210, 6' i have purchased 100 50mg Dbol tablets, and a vial of test/prop. I also have 8 amps of test depot(galinka). I am very eager to start however i dont know how much of each i should take or when i should take em. So im kinda stuck and dont want to OD on too much of something. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Oh yeah one more question how the hell do i open the small glass amps without breaking em? Thanks bros

[soo2bhuge]

RESEARCH!!!
all the answers to your question r on this board bro. dont' rush into it, please!!! take your time. nothing to be eager about if u don't know what u're doing. do u even have your pct planned out? do u know what pct is?

[Tyson2481]

ya i know about pct and i have ordered some nolv for that. I also have plenty of creatine and protein for my ptc. Im total newbie and dont understand how to convert cc's to mgs so any help is appreciated thanks guys.

[soo2bhuge]

what about clomid? how is your diet? at 15%bf u might shoot up to 20% if u don't have the diet right and don't have the necessary things to keep the estrogen sides down. there is nothing to convert. 1ml=1cc.

[Tyson2481]

my diet as of now consists of minimal carb intake and high protein. I am doing a ****load of cardio as well. so how many mgs are a cc for example if i have a syringe what number on the syringe repesents mgs? like is the #1 on the syringe 250 mgs or 500 mgs ..thanks for your responses soo2bhuge

[Dude-Man]

my diet as of now consists of minimal carb intake and high protein. I am doing a ****load of cardio as well. so how many mgs are a cc for example if i have a syringe what number on the syringe repesents mgs? like is the #1 on the syringe 250 mgs or 500 mgs ..thanks for your responses soo2bhuge

depends on the concentration of the gear that you plan on using. I'll tell you straight up, you don't have nearly enough to run a decent cycle... and since you don't even know how to convert ml to mg, you obviously don't know enough about what you're doing to be doing it. Take a breather.. i almost jumped into a cycle like you did and over a year and 40 natural pounds of lean muscle and a boat load of information later, i feel like i'm finally ready.

[jkour211]

tyson u from oakland??

[Tyson2481]

used to be, relocated to the southwest

[jbol]

nice avatar,but please stay a while and research before you jump into anything.

[511220]

First you do not have enough gear. Second your diet and training have to come first. So while you educate yourself on AAS, get your diet and training routine in order.

Your still young at 30. Take your time and do it right the first time...

511220

[Tyson2481]

ok guys i have read the whole fu**ing morning lol...and this is what i have come to in terms of a 1st cycle.

week 1-4 dbol 25g
week 1-8 test/prop 500mg(week 1) then weeks 2-8 250mg
week 1-8 test enantat 250mg
week 1-8 nolva 20mg

PCT after last injection of test/prop and enatat
clomid
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed (every day)
day 12-21 50 mg ed

correct me on ANYTHING u guys feel is wrong...one more question is it ok to maintain my cardio AFTER lifting kinda like a cool down???

you guys are great thanks bros

[Tyson2481]

i am obviously gonna get me some more gear, my **** source sold me the stuff cheap and obviously not enuff, so along with more gear i will be giving him a well deserved ass kicking.....

[jbol]

since your an oakland fan ill help you out j/jkn ,but you will still need to do more than read for 1 morning,you need to be aware of the sides,risks,proper pct,ect.
a first cycle should be something like this:it can be run 10 or 12 weeks

wks 1 -12 test e or cyp 400-500mg/wk split into 2 shots/wk (ex. 200-250mg mondays 200-250mg thursdays)
weeks 1 through end pct nolva 20mg/ed

2 weeks after last shot of test pct with clomid
day 1 300mg
days 2-11 100mg/ed
days 12-21 50mg/ed

but as i stated above please stick around and research.

[dive_kid]

forst cycle, try this:
week 1 to 12 500mg test-e
week 1 to 4 30mg d-bol/day
week 1 to 12 10mg nolva/day
week 14 to 17 pct
prop needs to be shot every day. for a first cycle you might
not like that. test-e is shot twice a week. see how ya like that
and save the prop for next time. like said above diet and training
will be what makes it for you. and yes a little cardio is ok but
you wanna make sure ya get that pwo shake in before 20 min.
it is not just what you eat but when you eat it. you might want
to have a read in the diet and training forums. good luck

[dirtdawg]

ok guys i have read the whole fu**ing morning lol...and this is what i have come to in terms of a 1st cycle.

week 1-4 dbol 25g
week 1-8 test/prop 500mg(week 1) then weeks 2-8 250mg
week 1-8 test enantat 250mg
week 1-8 nolva 20mg

PCT after last injection of test/prop and enatat
clomid
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed (every day)
day 12-21 50 mg ed

correct me on ANYTHING u guys feel is wrong...one more question is it ok to maintain my cardio AFTER lifting kinda like a cool down???

you guys are great thanks bros

prop is ed injects, thats a lot for a first timer imo, run this

1-4 dbol 40 mgs ed
1-12 enth 600 mgs ew shots twice ew
1-12 nolva 10 mgs ed
12-18 nolva 20 mgs ed
14-18 clomid 100 mgs ed
1-18 trib 6 g's ed

[Tyson2481]

thanks alot for all your help bros, i will continue to read and read and read ... im gonna hold off for now on starting until firstly i get more gear from that a-hole...and secondly gonna order some well needed clomid. i believed this guy cuz he was like on his 5th or 6th cycle and he suggested doing a 6 week cycle and i was like WTF all i read on here says 8-10 minimum.

[longhorn814]

my diet as of now consists of minimal carb intake and high protein. I am doing a ****load of cardio as well. so how many mgs are a cc for example if i have a syringe what number on the syringe repesents mgs? like is the #1 on the syringe 250 mgs or 500 mgs ..thanks for your responses soo2bhuge

bro it sounds like you need to do a lot more research and you dont have enough gear either. The #'s on the syringe indicate volume of fluid not concentration. The concentration referes to your gear so if you a 10ml bottle of test e thats at 250mg/ml, 1 ml of fluid in the syringe is equal to 250 mg of test. 1ml=1cc, this is fluid volume. Mg refers to concentration (mass). Do some research, its definitely better to do it right and get good results than do it wrong with no results and lots of sides.

[Tyson2481]

ok so i do have 10ml vial of test/prop will that be enough for a 10 week cycle or shall i get more???

this is my bottle of prop

[longhorn814]

ok so i do have 10ml vial of test/prop will that be enough for a 10 week cycle or shall i get more???

this is my bottle of prop

prop has to be shot ed or eod, 1 10ml bottle at 100mg/ml wont last long. Assuming you shoot 50mg ed or 100mg eod, that'll only last a couple of weeks

[dirtdawg]

ok so i do have 10ml vial of test/prop will that be enough for a 10 week cycle or shall i get more???

this is my bottle of prop

if you run 50 mgs ew it is

[Tyson2481]

gotcha, again much thanks bros