Human grade vs. QV brand test.

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02-12-2005, 08:48 AM
jackaroo

Human grade vs. QV brand test.

Hey bros, couple of q's - I just aquired a 10ml bottle of Depot Testosterone, 200mg Cypionate. Human grade, directly perscribed (Pharmacia&Upjohn Co.) - I know it's legit. Here's a question, I was going to do my 2nd cycle, and already have qv enanthate 250mg, qv prop 100mg, and qv deca, 400mg.
I was going to front load the
prop-.5mg eod,
test e, 250mg every monday and thurs,
and 400mg deca every monday.
Would you guys replace the test e with the cyp? I can get 2 more bottles. And if so, should I go with 200mg of cyp every mon and thurs, or just once a week. Is human grade better quality than QV?

By the way, 34y/o, 5 11, 210lbs. Ist cycle last year was a sust/deca cycle.

Thanks alot bros,
jackaroo
02-12-2005, 08:56 AM
bigcut77

From my recent personel experience human grade is 10 times better than qv. It is dosed more accurately, the pain after injection seems to be much less, and I received no test flu like I did with qv products. Do not get me wrong qv is not a bad choice and I did make good gains when I was not too sick to go to the gym. If you have the choice go human grade. For me it made a world of diffrence. JMO
02-12-2005, 08:59 AM
bigcut77

Also with cyp you can go with one injection a week. And the prop should be run every day to maintain proper blood levels.
02-12-2005, 09:09 AM
bigcut77

When I use cyp and front load with prop it usually looks like this.

Cyp-600mgs monday...weeks 1-12
prop 75mg everyday(525mg week) weeks 1-4 and 12-16

remember your front loading to compensate for the fact that the cyp wont become fully active until week 4. And droping the cyp at the end of 12 and continuing with prop to ensure a quicker start on PCT. The dosage of prop should be around what the cyp or enan is for the week.
02-12-2005, 10:08 AM
yikes!!

there is no comparison with human grade and QV.....go with human grade
02-12-2005, 10:13 AM
BodyMechanic

Quote:

Originally Posted by yikes!!

there is no comparison with human grade and QV.....go with human grade

exactly! Upjohn test cyp. is the best i have ever used.
02-12-2005, 09:39 PM
jackaroo

Thanks bro's - human grade it is! Guess I'll just save the qv-e for round three. You guys think I should go with one day a week shots with the cyp? Guess I should do at least 400mg, because the deca is 400mg. Is 400mg of cyp once a week too much, or should I do 200mg a week?
02-13-2005, 02:21 AM
YounG_SluG11

Human grade all the way......
02-13-2005, 02:31 AM
KGBnine

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackaroo

Hey bros, couple of q's - I just aquired a 10ml bottle of Depot Testosterone, 200mg Cypionate. Human grade, directly perscribed (Pharmacia&Upjohn Co.) - I know it's legit. Here's a question, I was going to do my 2nd cycle, and already have qv enanthate 250mg, qv prop 100mg, and qv deca, 400mg.
I was going to front load the
prop-.5mg eod,
test e, 250mg every monday and thurs,
and 400mg deca every monday.
Would you guys replace the test e with the cyp? I can get 2 more bottles. And if so, should I go with 200mg of cyp every mon and thurs, or just once a week. Is human grade better quality than QV?

By the way, 34y/o, 5 11, 210lbs. Ist cycle last year was a sust/deca cycle.

Thanks alot bros,
jackaroo

I'm assuming you mean .5mL prop eod, correct? If so, I would go with ED injections.
02-13-2005, 03:10 AM
pyschomab

QV is some underdosed **** HUMAN GRADE WILL GIVE U SOME RESULTS !!!
02-13-2005, 07:49 AM
Seajackal

If I was you I would deffinitly go with human grade if you can afford them but
if not just don't shot QV test enanthate in your quads this is a bitch swelling
at there bro, just shot anyother place but never quads, JMO!
And what Bigcut77 said about the test flu is true it happened to me about 4
times in a row, I quit using QVs.
02-13-2005, 07:54 AM
sp9

Agree with Seajakal about quads if you are doing test only shots. If you are mixing Test and EQ then quads are painless even with QV.
02-13-2005, 10:23 AM
Cuttup

QV kills your thighs when done raw.
02-13-2005, 10:58 AM
jackaroo

Yeah. .5 prop - I was gonna do eod, but I guess I can do ed for 4 weeks - do you think I can use anything smaller than 23 guage? 23g ed makes me cringe thinking about it.
02-13-2005, 11:11 AM
TheGreatOne

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackaroo

Yeah. .5 prop - I was gonna do eod, but I guess I can do ed for 4 weeks - do you think I can use anything smaller than 23 guage? 23g ed makes me cringe thinking about it.

Yeh I use 25g, takes a bit longer but goes in smoother, less scar tissues, no big deal.
02-13-2005, 02:04 PM
ChefJ

You will need more than 3 10ml bottles at 200mgs per ml for a cycle. I guess not thats 600mg a week for 10 weeks. Ok I would need more but you should be ok.
02-13-2005, 02:32 PM
jackaroo

Well, I wish I could get another one, but I can't. I still have the qv test e though, so if and when I run out of the cyp, do you think it'll be a big deal to finish up with the qv? Oh, I was also told to go back to .5 prop injections ed for the final 3 weeks of the cycle - any thoughts?
02-13-2005, 02:42 PM
ChefJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackaroo

Well, I wish I could get another one, but I can't. I still have the qv test e though, so if and when I run out of the cyp, do you think it'll be a big deal to finish up with the qv? Oh, I was also told to go back to .5 prop injections ed for the final 3 weeks of the cycle - any thoughts?

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