bridging cycles?

[bigbodyjosh]

i was wondering a few buddies of mine were talking about bridging their cycles 6 weeks between with something mild, winny, eQ...anavar something of that sort and i'm kinda interested on how that may work and what you all think about it. thanks...BBJ

[peump]

i think it best to
come completely off
then let your body recover to normal
before running another cycle.
JMO
6 weeks of winny does not sound "mild" to me.

[***xxx***]

why would u wanna bridge? then don t come off at all, that s the same.

your body needs a rest and as long as your not earning your living with it htere is no sense to stay on all the time...

[alevok]

tha main goal of bridging is to keep you in anabolic phase between cycles and to help you maintain your previous gains. People who juice all year around or very long term bridge between two heavy cycles with milder juice like primo, equipoise, winny etc...
I am not a big fan of too long term cycles but if I was up for a competition I would do it...

[bigbodyjosh]

how exactly would you come to bridge the two? i'm midway running my cypionate/eq/GH/gonna start winstrol on week 8-12...from 12-24 i was thinking of bridging it with something...WHAT? who knows, thats why i'm asking you guys in your opinions so week 24 get back on heavy tren prop eD for 8 weeks and pull out...so in your opinions what is best between these two to bridge with? thanks

[bigbodyjosh]

and by the way, i got enough GH to last me over 6 months....so i'm definately staying on the GH...AS or not..

[bigbodyjosh]

bump

[rodge]

i just run test as a base at 750-1000 ew with another compound for 15-20 weeks then i stop this compound and lower the test to 500 for about 7-8 weeks then back on 750-1000 test with another compound and so on.....

[Rickson]

There are two kinds of bridges. A bridge to recovery and a bridge between cycles. Personally, I think a bridge between cycles is foolish for anyone who is younger and doesn't need to be on all year. I would go ahead and give your body the rest. If you are going to stay on GH and I assume slin then you won't need an AAS bridge anyway.

[LILLEN]

Here its very common with bridge. And almost everyone goes with 10/60 d-bol.

That means 10 mg of d-boll ED for 60 days.

[bigbodyjosh]

Im running GH but no slin...prone to diabetes, don't want to take that risk

[9000rpm]

There are two kinds of bridges. A bridge to recovery and a bridge between cycles. Personally, I think a bridge between cycles is foolish for anyone who is younger and doesn't need to be on all year. I would go ahead and give your body the rest. If you are going to stay on GH and I assume slin then you won't need an AAS bridge anyway.

I agree.

No offense, but I think that "bridging" between cycles is just stupid. Your body's own natural hormone levels will not recover even one bit if it constantly sees extra hormones in you.

I personally think bridging is the single most dumb and irresponsible thing someone can do. Now if you decide to stay on a long cycle (and you are hopefully in your late 30's or 40's), then you should just do a long low dose cycle.

Don't be irresponsible with your body.

[bigbodyjosh]

None taken...Just hearing you bros out in this whole bridging idea.

[9000rpm]

My suggestion is don't be in a rush. Be patient with your body and it will reward you with a long and healthy life.

[bigbodyjosh]

So lets say i didn't want to come off After a 1-8week cYP 1-4 DBOL 4-12 EQ and 8-12 WINNY should i just run PCT...cause i really don't wanna come off after 12 weeks...any suggestions?

[9000rpm]

My suggestion is to come off cycle and do your PCT. Then for your next cycle, plan your PCT very well and use HCG during your cycle. Then when it is time to come off again, you will recover much quicker than normal. I agree with the "time on = time off", but if your levels are back to normal, then you could start a cycle early.

Just plan your PCT very well and don't be afraid to spend more money on PCT.

Would you rather be safe and be able to do many cycles during your lifetime, or would you rather chance harming your natural test production permenantly and risk having to undergo HRT at a young age and be on it for the rest of your life. Steroids are illegal because there are health risks that go along with them. If you abuse them, you are increasing your risk of permenant damage to your body.

But it is your choice.

[ChefJ]

My suggestion is to come off cycle and do your PCT. Then for your next cycle, plan your PCT very well and use HCG during your cycle. Then when it is time to come off again, you will recover much quicker than normal. I agree with the "time on = time off", but if your levels are back to normal, then you could start a cycle early.

Just plan your PCT very well and don't be afraid to spend more money on PCT.

Would you rather be safe and be able to do many cycles during your lifetime, or would you rather chance harming your natural test production permenantly and risk having to undergo HRT at a young age and be on it for the rest of your life. Steroids are illegal because there are health risks that go along with them. If you abuse them, you are increasing your risk of permenant damage to your body.

But it is your choice.

A few bad points here. HCG is not necessary for shorter cycles anything shorter than 16 weeks and it is not necessary. Time on = time off??? So you are saying if I am on for 52 weeks it is going to take me 26 weeks to recover?? I doubt it. And lastly what is so wrong with HRT?? I personally stay on for very long cycles and lower the doses after 12-16 weeks and go into a PCT type recovery while lowering doses, and or changing compounds.

[9000rpm]

A few bad points here. HCG is not necessary for shorter cycles anything shorter than 16 weeks and it is not necessary. Time on = time off??? So you are saying if I am on for 52 weeks it is going to take me 26 weeks to recover?? I doubt it. And lastly what is so wrong with HRT?? I personally stay on for very long cycles and lower the doses after 12-16 weeks and go into a PCT type recovery while lowering doses, and or changing compounds.

Like I said, it is everyones decision to make on their own. There is nothing wrong with HRT, as long as it is being monitored my a doctor. But cycles that long that are simply undertaken with only "online education", is kinda crazy if you ask me. Do what you wish, it's your body. Good luck with your cycles, and I hope you don't screw yourself up.

[LuvMuhRoids]

there's no such thing as bridging or atleast bridging and PCT at the same time. What some users will do is lower the dosages enough to lower androgen levels to give the receptors a break then start over again. What I do.

[bigbodyjosh]

Do you suggest that then? For instance, i've heard that every 8 weeks you should change esters so the body doesn't get too much of the same thing and get used to it. so should I A. low dose some EQ B. take some primo or C. run some anavars till my next cycle week 24 and hit it hard with tren and prop? or D. just come off?

[BIGGEST J]

i think it best to
come completely off
then let your body recover to normal
before running another cycle.
JMO
6 weeks of winny does not sound "mild" to me.

got that richt....

[bigbodyjosh]

bump

[bigbodyjosh]

bump

[kojie]

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/For...&threadid=4316
http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/For...&threadid=2889

brigding is a myth... read their debates about it

[kojie]

and here is proper hcg usage

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=22584

[redmeat]

If you want to stay on just run test at a lower dose for a little while before you go back on full blast.

[bigbodyjosh]

got this from a post on another forum i used to use... i think it awnsered my question and made my decision on what i'm gonna do now...maybe it will be as helpful for someone else as it was helpful for me.

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This explains the bridge in an easy-to-read manner with overall accurate information. Again, if using D-bol (androgen) it should be limited to 10mg and only be taken in the AM. If using Var (anabolic) you can use up to 20mg and it does not need to be used in AM. If using Test, then it really doesnt matter because the recovery factor will not be there. Again, I define a "bridge" as a way to recover HPTA while maintaining gains...this is my good deed for the day....
JC

D-bol Bridge Explained by Fonz
I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.

Hope that clears the air.