test prop question

**jgg1221** · 03-04-2005, 01:54 PM

ok ive been using test prop for around 3.5 weeks and havent noticed any signifigant gains yet.... im using 75mg ed, and started at 50mg ed for about a week

i know this sounds like i probably got ripped off, but whats very bizarre about this is that I still get the propionate pain that everyone gets... that extremly painful soarness around the region injected that goes away after a day or to

when i mix it with b12 the pain doesnt show up either

i am using animal power products

do you guys think i should increase it?

by the way my diet is in tact... 300g protein and 300g carbs per day

**Rumble1251** · 03-04-2005, 02:12 PM

Have you gained any strength?

**mule1983** · 03-04-2005, 02:25 PM

it does sound like you got ripped off. I am up 20 lbs 1 month into my prop cycle and i am only running 75 mg ED.

**XxElitexX** · 03-04-2005, 02:28 PM

i think your gears bunk.

**absolutebob** · 03-04-2005, 02:32 PM

How is your calorie intake looking?

**Iowa** · 03-04-2005, 02:37 PM

Your problem is that you're using AP products. Im almost sure of it. BTW, AP isn't new, its just relabeled gear that sucked in the first place. I won't say what brand it was, because I read in one of buff87's posts that he didn't want the name to drop. BTW, buff87 didn't tell me who it was, I found out somewhere else.

**jgg1221** · 03-04-2005, 02:38 PM

300g of carbs and 300g protein...
not sure what the converts to

**jgg1221** · 03-04-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Iowa

Your problem is that you're using AP products. Im almost sure of it. BTW, AP isn't new, its just relabeled gear that sucked in the first place. I won't say what brand it was, because I read in one of buff87's posts that he didn't want the name to drop. BTW, buff87 didn't tell me who it was, I found out somewhere else.

why do you mean by "it sucked"?

**jgg1221** · 03-04-2005, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rumble1251

Have you gained any strength?

hmm not really. a lil bit but not much... it could just be natural strength increasing from my eating routine

**Iowa** · 03-04-2005, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

why do you mean by "it sucked"?

I mean the company's gear was sub-par mexican vet gear.

**jgg1221** · 03-04-2005, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Iowa

I mean the company's gear was sub-par mexican vet gear.

so should i increase the dosage for effectiveness?

**Iowa** · 03-04-2005, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

so should i increase the dosage for effectiveness?

You could, but personally I would scrap the AP gear and get something else if you can.

**ToJuice,OrNotToJuice** · 03-04-2005, 03:37 PM

You got ripped bro, I am on my second week of 125 prop eod and my lifts and hardness are through the roof. Got a limp from the stuff at the moment though

**mule1983** · 03-04-2005, 04:25 PM

Got a limp from the stuff at the moment though

aint prop a bitch!

**Vegas67** · 03-04-2005, 04:30 PM

Strength should be up 10%+ in first couple of weeks even if the weight isnt bro

**ADZZ** · 03-04-2005, 07:32 PM

Im almost 4 weeks into by prop cycle 75mg ED and im up 6kg, and strenght is way up. Sounds like your gear is fake.

**longhorn814** · 03-04-2005, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

300g of carbs and 300g protein...
not sure what the converts to

4 cals/g of carbs and 4 cals/g of protein. eat more

**kiDRaines** · 03-25-2005, 02:53 PM

AP is NOT that bad and they BRAG that is doesnt hurt as bad as all the other PROP's. Good luck bro, I think your sh*t might be fake.

**joevette** · 03-25-2005, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by jgg1221

300g of carbs and 300g protein...
not sure what the converts to

Well, that's only 2400 calories. Where's your fats? I'd bump both the carbs and protein and get some EFAs in your diet to get you closer to 3500-5000 calories depending on what you weigh.

***G-1000*** · 03-25-2005, 03:14 PM

lets see you gear post some pics

and like joe said you need more calories

**jgg1221** · 03-25-2005, 05:07 PM

i got a blood test done, its actually not fake at all

my test levels were around 4 times that of my maximum natural production, so it is real

**jgg1221** · 03-25-2005, 05:08 PM

i probably just need to eat more

**GridIronDevil** · 03-25-2005, 05:12 PM

thats weird bro, maybe its just your food intake, remmber food is still the most important thing for wieght gain and strength gain especially on AAS

**GridIronDevil** · 03-25-2005, 05:16 PM

ight every1 i got a question what kind of gains can i expect on this kind of a cycle:
week 1: 100 mg's test prop EOD
week 2: 100 mg's test prop EOD
week 3: 100 mg's test prop EOD
week 4: 100 mg's test prop EOD
week 5: 100 mg's test prop EOD/50 mg Winstrol ED/10 mg Nolvadex ED
week 6: 100 mg's test prop EOD/50 mg Winstrol ED/10 mg Nolvadex ED
week 7: 100 mg's test prop EOD/50 mg Winstrol ED/10 mg Nolvadex ED
week 8: 100 mg's test prop EOD/50 mg Winstrol ED/10 mg Nolvadex ED
week 9: (3 days after last injection) 100 mg Clomid ED/20 mg Nolvadex ED
week 10: 50 mg Clomid ED/20 mg Nolvadex ED

this is my first jsut started monday startin to really feel great, havent hit the weights heavy yet cause the 1 time pain is pretty rough, im throwin down about 370 to 410 grams protien per day depending on my schedual, what could i expect from this also few of my freinds are just running the test prop by itself for 6 weeks wit the proper PCT what can they expect from that? thanx Bros

**Logan13** · 03-25-2005, 05:17 PM

Just because it hurts doesn't mean that the gear is any good, the pain is from the BA content. I have been on prop @ 75mg ED since monday, I feel really solid. It is the gear, do not shoot that crap anymore. Still waiting for my EQ to come in though, I let you know how I feel in 4-5 weeks.

-Logan13

**BlInDsIdE** · 03-25-2005, 05:59 PM

yeah bro sounds like ur gear is bunk, i wouldn't up it i'd scrap it but thats jmho good luck

**joevette** · 03-25-2005, 06:21 PM

The true test for the legitimacy of test prop is your libido. Within the first week your libido should be through the roof.

**China Dawg** · 03-25-2005, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by joevette

The true test for the legitimacy of test prop is your libido. Within the first week your libido should be through the roof.

Yeah I agree. I'm 34 and normally my libido absolutely sucks. It's been progressively decreasing for 3 years. I'm into my third week of test prop 100 mg EOD though. Injections are really pain free compared to the painful test e injections I had in my last cycle. I was wondering if my test prop is fake or not (it's some generic Chinese stuff) because of no injection pain, but I'll tell you my libido is through the roof now. I'm sporting major wood now - I'm talking Sequoia National Forest man. So I know my stuff is good - plus I've made some good strength (bench went up 40 lbs) and weight gains...

**GridIronDevil** · 03-25-2005, 06:56 PM

yeh thats one thing i can agree on i get wood a good 3-4 times a day and im talkin Oak man straight up steel, its good but kinda anooying as its not very nice to get a boner whille walkin down the street.

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 03-25-2005, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Iowa

Your problem is that you're using AP products. Im almost sure of it. BTW, AP isn't new, its just relabeled gear that sucked in the first place. I won't say what brand it was, because I read in one of buff87's posts that he didn't want the name to drop. BTW, buff87 didn't tell me who it was, I found out somewhere else.

If I remember right it was Ttokyo I think... They had a lot of fakes so they just made a new line... (I could be wrong but I think thats what it was)

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 03-25-2005, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by GridIronDevil

yeh thats one thing i can agree on i get wood a good 3-4 times a day and im talkin Oak man straight up steel, its good but kinda anooying as its not very nice to get a boner whille walkin down the street.

Train harder and Eat more... You'll grow... Or maybe train less if your over-training... are you atleast losing fat while maintaining your size?

**jgg1221** · 03-25-2005, 08:17 PM

yeah remembering to eat all that food is such a pain in the butt

**jgg1221** · 03-25-2005, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

Train harder and Eat more... You'll grow... Or maybe train less if your over-training... are you atleast losing fat while maintaining your size?

yes, i actually have noticed my strength go up slightly, and body fat drop down....

i weigh 235lbs and im 6ft tall

soo i need to eat a lot

i honestly have no idea why i weigh so much. i seriously weigh more then i should... the majority of people think i weigh around 200lbs

im not real fat... not super defined, but no protruding gut

its as if my bones are made of metal

most of my strength is in my upper body too
(yes i do my legs as well)

**helpmeAAS!** · 03-26-2005, 07:05 PM

I am actually running a low-dose cycle of test prop and deca , and I just started the prop about a week and a half ago, and my 6-7 rep bench #'s went up over 25%. It was sick- I just loaded the plates on to see how many I could do at a weight that I previously couldn't even do two of, but thanks to prop... 7! My friends who knew I was on gear (and saw me do it) were jealous, and my friends that don't know that I'm on gear think I'm lying about the gains.

I'm only taking about 45 mg every other day of the prop and 100mg/week of deca.

**sevenmann** · 03-26-2005, 08:27 PM

Eat Eat Eat . . . what more can I say, your body needs fuel Especially when on AS
It truly is amazing the results you'll see if you make eating more of a priority