Feeling terrible....Cant even breath,..what the hel!!!

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 03:32 PM

Guys,..

Im in my 8th week of test E 500mgs per week. Ive gone from 240-242lbs to a fluctuating weight of 265-270..close to 30lbs,..My strength gains are beautiful...Im reping 314 for as many as 15 reps, then 405 for 3,..squating 405 for 8-10reps,..and overall..my muscles have really just blowned the hel up....My promblem is all the fat and water reterntion...I am so fukin bloated its not funny...My coworker,the other trainer here..was just noticing how much my ankles have swole up. I walked outside to get something from my car and came back in. by the time i sat down and started talking..i was totally our of breath,,,of coarse he's steady teasing me,.."man you are out of breath.//you cant even talk..lol",..it is funny but seriously guys,..even though i feel great in the gym....I feel terrible outside the gym...my girlfriend was teasing me lastnight beacuse i couldnt even get of the couch,..my abnominals did not want to lift me up,..this is some crazy shyt...my cardio is at about 2 maybe 3 days per week,..i will admit my calorie intake is much more than before,.of course thats becaus eim staving all day...Im running nolva aswell since day one,..any good advice...this is urgent..thanks.

**Beefkake31** · 03-09-2005, 03:35 PM

Why didn't you run any letro or arimidex?

**MuscleQuest** · 03-09-2005, 03:37 PM

how long have these symptoms been going on? your immune system is lower so maybe you have some sort of temperary illness. how's your blood pressure? with all that extra weight it could be effecting things. do you experience it during cardio?i know i have a hard time sometimes but it's because i'm pushing so hard. feel like puking after most workouts and i'll usually have a nap once i have had my post workout meal

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 03:40 PM

the last 2 weeks have been hard,..especially the last week,...i had to leqave work saturday cause i felt like shyt,..my face was so bloated,...i figured it was allergies but,..it could have been a combination. yes cardio is hell.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 04:20 PM

bump.....

**Hed** · 03-09-2005, 04:28 PM

During my 7th week i noticed it was harder breathing while i worked out, but im also somewhat sick, and i think i have fluid in my lungs..........

**mark956101957** · 03-09-2005, 04:31 PM

Check your BP and adjust your nolvadex/arimidex, letro whatever you are taking.

Originally Posted by Cuttup

Guys,..

Im in my 8th week of test E 500mgs per week. Ive gone from 240-242lbs to a fluctuating weight of 265-270..close to 30lbs,..My strength gains are beautiful...Im reping 314 for as many as 15 reps, then 405 for 3,..squating 405 for 8-10reps,..and overall..my muscles have really just blowned the hel up....My promblem is all the fat and water reterntion...I am so fukin bloated its not funny...My coworker,the other trainer here..was just noticing how much my ankles have swole up. I walked outside to get something from my car and came back in. by the time i sat down and started talking..i was totally our of breath,,,of coarse he's steady teasing me,.."man you are out of breath.//you cant even talk..lol",..it is funny but seriously guys,..even though i feel great in the gym....I feel terrible outside the gym...my girlfriend was teasing me lastnight beacuse i couldnt even get of the couch,..my abnominals did not want to lift me up,..this is some crazy shyt...my cardio is at about 2 maybe 3 days per week,..i will admit my calorie intake is much more than before,.of course thats becaus eim staving all day...Im running nolva aswell since day one,..any good advice...this is urgent..thanks.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by mark956101957

Check your BP and adjust your nolvadex/arimidex, letro whatever you are taking.

thanks...im gonna look up info to see the most accurate way of checking it

**Lozgod** · 03-09-2005, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Cuttup

thanks...im gonna look up info to see the most accurate way of checking it

Get a home BP cuff. They are pretty accurate.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Get a home BP cuff. They are pretty accurate.

yes, we sell them right here where i work,..i didnt even think of the fact they are right in front of my desk,,,thanks

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 04:51 PM

Drink more water and cut sodium out of your diet.

**Lozgod** · 03-09-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by ceasar250

Drink more water and cut sodium out of your diet.

While cutting sodium add potassium. Cutting sodium alone doesn't work. It is about your potassium to sodium ratio.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 04:57 PM

toss the salt hugh? man,,this si freaky..my shin was pressed against the desk, after backing up..it was a sick looking dent there...you can tell its a shyt load of water retention,.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:00 PM

should i bump the nolva to 20mg..im only taking 10mgs per day

**Lozgod** · 03-09-2005, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cuttup

should i bump the nolva to 20mg..im only taking 10mgs per day

Get some Letro.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Get some Letro.

bro, i dont have 2-3weeks to wait for letro...i need something yesterday.

**Lozgod** · 03-09-2005, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Cuttup

bro, i dont have 2-3weeks to wait for letro...i need something yesterday.

Order it froma research company and you'll have it by this weekend.

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 05:11 PM

www.anabolicreview-research.com

Overnight that ****. Won't letro take a couple weeks to build up in the system before becoming effective? Maybe l-dex is a better option, anyone?

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:12 PM

AnaBolic Review-Resea?

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 05:17 PM

That is the one my man.

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:26 PM

so bumping the nolva wont help,..?

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:27 PM

how much letro do i need to take?

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 05:41 PM

I believe you can go up to 2.5mg ed. I am not sure about extreme cases however, anyone?

**AnaboliKboy** · 03-09-2005, 05:42 PM

IMO bump the nolva in the meantime 20mg

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by ceasar250

I believe you can go up to 2.5mg ed. I am not sure about extreme cases however, anyone?

anabolics 2004...i just read he suggest eod.

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 05:54 PM

Is that recommended as a preventative measure or for someone about to explode? Personally, I never tried the stuff so I can't be exact, I was just helping you out with the research. Someone will be able to help you out, in the mean time; up Nolva, check BP (most chain pharmacies have a machine you can use) drink water, and no sodium...oh yeah and eat bannanas.

Some body help this dude out with the letro

**Cuttup** · 03-09-2005, 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=ceasar250]Is that recommended as a preventative measure or for someone about to explode? Personally, I never tried the stuff so I can't be exact, I was just helping you out with the research. Someone will be able to help you out, in the mean time; up Nolva, check BP (most chain pharmacies have a machine you can use) drink water, and no sodium...oh yeah and eat bannanas.

Some body help this dude out with the letro[/QUOTE

your help.suggestions are appreciated,..thansk guy

**ceasar250** · 03-09-2005, 06:16 PM

No problem partner. Your boy Cotto got some serious home field advantage against Corley, that stop was bulls***. When Cotto was **** near out on his feet they let him box his way out but when Corley takes a knee they stop it? garbage.

**Lozgod** · 03-09-2005, 06:18 PM

There is no fast remedy to water retention other than a diuretic. However the ferema will reduce it over time. Just take the 2.5 EOD.

**CatGrabber** · 03-09-2005, 06:50 PM

I was the EXACT way. I felt the EXACT way. I got some LASIX and WOW!! Once you take it you will piss for 2 hours (pure water) and feel super. Many on here say it is dangerous. This is only if your are cut and want to get RIPPED for shows etc.. If you are bloated like we are, it is OK. Lasix works wonders IMO. Robert

**CatGrabber** · 03-09-2005, 06:51 PM

Lasix is a medical dueretic used for water retention. Again, most on here wil say it is dangerous but WOW does it work. Robert

**icewind** · 03-09-2005, 07:16 PM

500mg of test enanthate is not really that much...is this your first cycle?
Your gains are good.

Agree with most of the guys here...check your blood pressure, lower your salt intake, increase your anti-estrogen intake.
I guess some blood test whouldn't hurt...just to make sure...

If these don't work...you can either:

1 - stop test enanthate with some PCT
2 - swich to test prop (should retain less water) maybee with some winstrol

you can also try to reconfigure your nutrition...

This is just an opinion...

**Hed** · 03-09-2005, 08:49 PM

Is it for sure the water retention causing the shortness of breath you guys? Im on the same cycle, 9 weeks in, i have short breath sometimes, and i have almost no retention of H2o at all.........

**redmeat** · 03-09-2005, 09:16 PM

How's your diet? You eating any pizza or fastfood? Chips?

**DrugsrGood** · 03-09-2005, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hed

Is it for sure the water retention causing the shortness of breath you guys? Im on the same cycle, 9 weeks in, i have short breath sometimes, and i have almost no retention of H2o at all.........

Im curious too, Im lean as can be, minimal water, but still short winded, even when Im not doin sh*t cept talkin.

**Cuttup** · 03-10-2005, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

There is no fast remedy to water retention other than a diuretic. However the ferema will reduce it over time. Just take the 2.5 EOD.

thanks, im gonna order some today...ive bumped the nolva to 20mg for now

**Cuttup** · 03-10-2005, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by CatGrabber

Lasix is a medical dueretic used for water retention. Again, most on here wil say it is dangerous but WOW does it work. Robert

yeah i thought to just get some of that instead but the side had me just forget about even trying it,...how quick did you lose that water?

**Cuttup** · 03-10-2005, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by icewind

500mg of test enanthate is not really that much...is this your first cycle?
Your gains are good.

Agree with most of the guys here...check your blood pressure, lower your salt intake, increase your anti-estrogen intake.
I guess some blood test whouldn't hurt...just to make sure...

If these don't work...you can either:

1 - stop test enanthate with some PCT
2 - swich to test prop (should retain less water) maybee with some winstrol

you can also try to reconfigure your nutrition...

This is just an opinion...

yeah this is my first...i only have about 2 weeks left on the test e,.im gonna stick it out,..does rite aid give you blood pressure test if oyu walk right in. and yes,.my nutrition has been shyty

**Cuttup** · 03-10-2005, 07:43 AM

yeah the short breath has got me super worried,...then again i am caring around an extra 28lgs im not use to carrying.

**Cuttup** · 03-10-2005, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by ceasar250

No problem partner. Your boy Cotto got some serious home field advantage against Corley, that stop was bulls***. When Cotto was **** near out on his feet they let him box his way out but when Corley takes a knee they stop it? garbage.

yeah, though i was rooting for cotto,..i think the stopage was totally unfair and unprofessional,.it appaired he wouldnt last much longer anyway but,..that was too soon to stop it.

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