tren as a bulker?

[insanepump621]

do you guys use tren for gettin cut and bulking up or is it mainly used for one or the other. I have seen people use it both ways

[symatech]

you can use it both ways

[cut260]

Its a perfect compound because it does both. You can use it totally by itself if you want to and you will get gains from it. It is best stacked with something else but in reality not necessary. Tren is slightly toxic in amounts over a period of time so you want to look at how long your cycles are and base the amounts on that. I always do 24 week cycles and I typically run it straight through but in lower doses (about 30mg eod). If for a comp I will use it in larger doses as I get closer to the comp and also to keep my strength up while dieting

[saluu]

i would have to say tren as bulker because regardless of the mass you put on it will be lean but diet and cardio are key. Why not go for max muscle mass and then cut up without roids do cardio and strict diet.

[redmeat]

I wouldn't use it on its own for bulking. In conjunction with test it is a great stack.

[AandF6969]

It is best stacked with something else but in reality not necessary.

If you don't classify using your dick as "necessary"

[peump]

If you don't classify using your dick as "necessary"

not everybody is effected the way that you assume.

[AandF6969]

not everybody is effected the way that you assume.

Why would you want to find out the hard way if you're at risk for shutdown? A guy I talk to at the gym frequently did a tren only cycle that ended 3 months ago and he's still having dick problems... not worth it for me. I'll spend the extra money and include test.

[1Leader]

Fina and test is the ultimate .

[Mesomorphyl]

I wouldn't use it on its own for bulking. In conjunction with test it is a great stack.

Yep and throw in some dbol too for a bulker. To cut stack test/tren/winny. But it really comes down to diet.

[Duke of Earl]

any opinions on what the absolute lowest effective dose of tren would be? am thinking about spicing up my next prop/var based cycle with a really low dose of tren.

[Mesomorphyl]

I think 50mg ed, or work it out depending on ester. Some might say 75mg eod but I do not think so.

[BDTR]

37.5 mg ed would work (I wouldnt run it eod), although dont expect dramatic results from it.