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  1. 03-14-2005, 06:02 PM #1
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    Whats good to stop gyno from tren enanthate (550mg a week)?
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  2. 03-14-2005, 06:21 PM #2
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  3. 03-14-2005, 06:27 PM #3
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    Are you running it with test?

    Have you been taking nolvadex?
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  4. 03-14-2005, 06:27 PM #4
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    nobody know anything??
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    nolva makes it worse and yes im taking 1.5 grams of test .5grams of deca
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    I am running 500mg p/w with 500mg of EQ & 600mg of test e. I am running in with Aromidex & HCG. So far so good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 250
    nolva makes it worse and yes im taking 1.5 grams of test .5grams of deca
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...........

    EDIT: I didn't think you were serious about your doses, my bad lol...
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  8. 03-14-2005, 06:40 PM #8
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    deca has a higher converstion rate then eq
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    i have research to back it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...........
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    Nolva is an anti-estrogen..........
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    nolva is for aromitzation not for prog.
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    So you're running:

    Test @ 1.5g/wk
    Deca @ 500mg/wk
    Tren E @ 550mg/wk

    You don't see a problem with this at all?

    How many cycles have you done bro?
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  14. 03-14-2005, 06:55 PM #14
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    No problem at all! This is my 4th
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    Are you using b6? 200mg/day of b6 is often suggested...
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  16. 03-14-2005, 07:02 PM #16
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    yeah i was considering bromo and t3 at 25mcg a day
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    To be honest, I thought you were joking about your doses bro... hence my 'Riiiight' comment...

    I've never seen anyone run that high of doses of all 3 together....
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    I wouldn't touch a thing, that way the first day or two of lactation you will have a good supply of colostrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 250
    yeah i was considering bromo and t3 at 25mcg a day
    Cabergoline (aka Dostinex)..is something to look into....

    Einstein1905 used to talk about it quite a bit, I haven't read much about it myself...

    Here's a post on the t3....

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...3&postcount=18

    Also, read these:

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...5&postcount=24

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...8&postcount=26

    I wish I had the experience to help you...
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    thanks bro
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    b-12, and bromo
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    Bromo and 200mgs of B6 a day........

    I just asked a MOD for ya.......
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    that's a wild cycle bro you have to post your results and how much breast milk you produce :lol
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    hahhahaha.. crazy doses man.. cant expect anything much less than C cups from it
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    This must be your 1st run with fina???

    that is what is assumed because you didn't know about the b6..

    bromo really works, but has some sides people don't like..

    this is your 4th cycle.. good luck with it..


    that's alot of test.. post up some picks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    I wouldn't touch a thing, that way the first day or two of lactation you will have a good supply of colostrum.

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    ask micheal jackson he likes gyno he looks like a women anyways. now serious bromo and b-12 and i like provirion as well. winny is good as well to fight progesterone . but dont use deca and tren both increasae progesteron leveels you dont wanna be giving micheal breast milk if your a young kid. ha ah saluu roid monkey in da house
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    You don't get gyno from tren. Tren can cause prolactin levels to rise wich in turn can cause lactation to occur (galactorrhea). To remedy lactation issues, b6 or bromocriptine can be taken. I would opt to go with b6 first. A maintenance dose of 200mg/ed should suffice. If lactation were to occur then, 300mg in the am and 300mg in the pm should be administered. Aromatase inhibitors or SERMS, will to nothing to supress prolactin levels. Nandrolone can cause prolactin levels to elevate as well. Trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC
    Cabergoline (aka Dostinex)..is something to look into....

    Einstein1905 used to talk about it quite a bit, I haven't read much about it myself...

    Here's a post on the t3....

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...3&postcount=18

    Also, read these:

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...5&postcount=24

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...8&postcount=26

    I wish I had the experience to help you...
    good info...thnx
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    fcontact: your right in saying that when prolactins levels rise it causes lactation (sometimes & in some people) but sorry...you CAN get gyno from Tren & Deca (progesterone related) whereas testosterone related gyn is nearly always estogen related
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    Are people cofusing B-6 and B-12 in this post?

    The first is for progesterone related gyno whilst the B-12 is for appetite stimulation, or so people a lot of the times want to believe...

    Just something I noticed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saluu
    ask micheal jackson he likes gyno he looks like a women anyways. now serious bromo and b-12 and i like provirion as well. winny is good as well to fight progesterone . but dont use deca and tren both increasae progesteron leveels you dont wanna be giving micheal breast milk if your a young kid. ha ah saluu roid monkey in da house
    oh saluu you crazy juice monkey you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britguy
    fcontact: your right in saying that when prolactins levels rise it causes lactation (sometimes & in some people) but sorry...you CAN get gyno from Tren & Deca (progesterone related) whereas testosterone related gyn is nearly always estogen related

    I don't believe you will find a case where someone will get gynoecomastia, solely from progesterone alone. Progesterone needs to work with estrogen in order for it to cause gynoecomastia. It basically enhances the effects of estrogen. Therefore if gynoecomastia were to occur, it would be primarily estrogen related. Therefore, taking an AI or SERM would remedy this problem. That being said. Tren alone or nandrolone alone, will not cause gynoecomastia. Now, if these hormones were stacked with a hormone like testosterone, and a user gets gyno. Then the ultimate culprit is the testosterone, the tren and nandrolone would intensify the effects only because they are PR agonist and as I mentioned earlier, progesterone pretty much enhances estrogen's effects. So again, trenbolone and nandrolone will not cause progesterone induced gyno. Gynoecomastia is primarily estrogen related, progesterone alone cannot cause gynoecomastia.......
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    Lotta gear bro, but with fina b6
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    Quote Originally Posted by FContact
    I don't believe you will find a case where someone will get gynoecomastia, solely from progesterone alone. Progesterone needs to work with estrogen in order for it to cause gynoecomastia. It basically enhances the effects of estrogen. Therefore if gynoecomastia were to occur, it would be primarily estrogen related. Therefore, taking an AI or SERM would remedy this problem. That being said. Tren alone or nandrolone alone, will not cause gynoecomastia.


    This isnt quite true. There have been bros who have started lactating and getting gyno symptoms on tren only cycles.
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    100mg ed of B6 while on Tren
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    As I stated earlier, lactation is caused by elavated prolactin levels. NANDROLONE & IT'S DERIVATIVES (TRENBOLONE) WILL ELEVATE PROLACTIN LEVELS. Taking something like vitamin B6, will supress prolactin levels. Colossus, ofcourse there will be bros that lactate on tren only cycle, did you not read the previous post correctly? When lactation of the breast occurs, the alveoli of the breast become stimulated, the alveoli of the breast are what secrete milk. It wouldn't surprise me if people were confusing the stimulation of the alveoli with gynoecomatia symptoms. So, this is true, and until you can show me scientific proof stating otherwise, it will remain that way......
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    250, with your cycle I feel it necassary to run an AI along with some B6. This should remedy any gyno problems and any lactation problems.....
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    HCG is pointless in this case. Until the end of the cycle anyway.
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