Planning first cycle want to know others idea.

**lethalppl** · 04-03-2002, 12:53 AM

500mg Enanth per week, 400 mg Deca per week and 40mg Dball. All for 8 weeks
or i might do dball for only first 4 weeks unsure yet.

wait 3 weeks and start clomid 50mg a day for 3 weeks.

I do not know which do armidex/liquidex and how much to do of each and what good price for this too?
Also i been told some people do it throughout and others wait until they get symtoms?
any sugestions would be good thx

**bigkev** · 04-03-2002, 01:01 AM

deca and test just as you outlined. dbol at 40mgs per day for the first 4 weeks.

clomid should be started 3 1/2 weeks after last injection. 300mgs day one, 100mgs per day for the next 10 days, 50mgs per day for the next 7-10 days.

have nolvadex on hand and use only if signs of gyno are felt.

**lethalppl** · 04-03-2002, 01:06 AM

nolvadex how much should i use if i get signs? and once signs go aways should keep using or quit.

**lethalppl** · 04-03-2002, 01:16 AM

Another question, I going to do injection of test 250mg on tuesday, deca 200mg on thursday. Test 250mg on sat., Deca 200mg on sunday. Do u think i should split them up like this or do 2 days, etc. How sore will i be after the injection because i have soccer during the week.

**lil jay** · 04-03-2002, 01:49 AM

a cycle doesnt have to be complicated.just split in to 2 days,its easier to keep up with.

**gettinthere** · 04-03-2002, 01:54 AM

If i'm not mistaken, the test is in 250/ml and the deca is in 200/ml strengths. So I would inject a total of 2ccs at a time. 1 cc of each. Just draw the first then stick the needle in to draw out the other cc and you're golden. i wouldn't want to be injecting four times a week. Two is already enough for me. Monday-Thursday injections are good. Ideally there would be an injection every 3.5 days exactly, to keep levels constant, but with longer acting esters in both enanth. and deca I don't think it makes any difference. As for being sore, i am nowhere near too sore to go do a leg workout the day after I inject. Especially with deca, which i hear is not too painful. Within a week and a half to two weeks you will start to feel the dbol for real! I love it. I'm in a little over two weeks and already blowin up. I cant wait to hit my mark of 225.

**androplex** · 04-03-2002, 02:20 AM

Might want to read hammerheads post:

Every newbie should read this before starting your first cycle!

Not saying you are a newbie but Hammerhead has a lot of good things to say about starting first cycle.

I learned a great deal from reading his post.

Peace

**lethalppl** · 04-03-2002, 02:01 PM

androplex thx for info i have read it before but i think i take another look on it to make sure i got everything.

**lethalppl** · 04-04-2002, 03:06 PM

everything but this have been answered:
nolvadex how much should i use if i get signs? and once signs go aways should keep using or quit. what good price for this too?
THis is really important so pleas respond.

I know that u use dbol as jumper starter but if i used it for whole 8 weeks wouldn t still help. Why quit after 4 weeks? Do not tell because the deca and test is kicking in at that time. I know i want to know if no point like will not help me gain or liver will be heavly damage. etc