A lot of Help please!

**kingpin054** · 03-22-2005, 11:40 PM

I started a cycle a week ago, tren 105mg. wk. winny 150mg.wk. test prop. 300mg. wk, dumping the tren cause I dont want the cough, and i didnt do a whole lot of reserch on it. Can you guys help me out with the rest of my cycle?

**Juddman** · 03-22-2005, 11:47 PM

What are looking for as for help? Adding? Subtracting? You're gonna get harassed for poor planning of your cycle I assume.

**kingpin054** · 03-22-2005, 11:55 PM

I know, But I would like to keep going with the test prop, and winny.
How could I run these to effectively ?
I want to cut, and loose weight.

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 12:17 AM

bump

**lilchef14** · 03-23-2005, 12:23 AM

Tren is a very good cutter, and u'd know that the cough isnt that big of a deal with most people. id leave it it.JMO

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 12:47 AM

I know but I am just freaking out over the whole cough thing, I'm reading horror storys about tren .

**ddoublevision** · 03-23-2005, 12:49 AM

the cough is really not that bad and only happens once or twice the whole cycle for me. be sure and aspirate and stay away from injecting it near veiny parts of the muscle. that was key for me.

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 12:56 AM

how does the rest of my cycle look?

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 08:26 AM

bump

**shango88** · 03-23-2005, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

how does the rest of my cycle look?

Is this your first cycle. The dosing seems low to me.

Do you shoot every day?

***xxx*** · 03-23-2005, 08:28 AM

for how long do u plan to cycle?

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 09:49 AM

8wks.

**The Baron** · 03-23-2005, 10:07 AM

I wouldn't drop the tren unless you have had probs with it already. But if you do continue with the prop and fina, I would consider increasing to maybe 50 to 75mg prop and 50mg winny ED.

**shango88** · 03-23-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Baron

I wouldn't drop the tren unless you have had probs with it already. But if you do continue with the prop and fina, I would consider increasing to maybe 50 to 75mg prop and 50mg winny ED.

I agree. Shoot the prop and winny ED. Did you tell us your stats somewhere and i missed it?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 03-23-2005, 12:15 PM

first off, what is your cycle history. 2nd, lay out your cycle (example week 1-10 test e, etc..). 3rd. I have never gotten "tren cough". From what I can tell, your above cycle looks horrible. were you only doing 105mg of Tren a week, 150mg of Winstrol a week along with only 300mg of Prop? Bro, that is NOT good.

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 02:39 PM

O.K here we go,
wk 1-6 tren 75mg eod
wk1-6 winny 50mg eod
wk 1-6 test prop.100. eod.

**diesel578** · 03-23-2005, 03:06 PM

First of all ive done tren got tren cough once and its not that bad. I love tren i would include it in all my cycles. Next your cycle is short id go something like..
week 1-10 prop 100mg eod
week 1-8 tren 75mg eod
week 6-10 winny 50mg ed (b/c it has a short halflife go ed)

hopefully you have PCT lined up.

**jerseyboy** · 03-23-2005, 03:29 PM

I've had the cough a bunch of times and it sucked. It might make you lose your lunch but it won't kill ya'. I was site injecting and always seemed to get it when I hit the bi's and tri's or calves and quads. Never had a problem shooting in the glutes or the delts. Find a spot that works and stick to it. Once I figured out which spots gave me the cough I stayed away from that area.

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 03-23-2005, 03:34 PM

I never had a cough from tren ... Just man up and don't be a p*ssy... you'll live.. Make that f*cking cycle longer... anything under 15 weeks is pointless to me but then again... most wouldn't agree...

**BUYLONGTERM** · 03-23-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

O.K here we go,
wk 1-6 tren 75mg eod
wk1-6 winny 50mg eod
wk 1-6 test prop.100. eod.

Still don't like that cycle. You are NOT going long enough and you need to run everything ED, NOT EOD!!!!!

**shango88** · 03-23-2005, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Still don't like that cycle. You are NOT going long enough and you need to run everything ED, NOT EOD!!!!!

Yup!

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 05:14 PM

ed for how long ?

**damiongage** · 03-23-2005, 05:22 PM

I would run it like this:

1-12 100mg prop ed
1-10 75mg tren ed
6-12 50wg winny ed

If that is too much for you, you could try this:

1-12 75mg prop ed
1-10 50mg tren ed

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 05:38 PM

dont know if I could stick myself three times a day, maybe eod ?

**damiongage** · 03-23-2005, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

dont know if I could stick myself three times a day, maybe eod ?

it would only be 1 shot a day.....3cc's 1 shot

some times 2...1.5cc in smaller muscles

**damiongage** · 03-23-2005, 05:41 PM

if you wnet with the smaller one..

it would definetly be 1 shot (1.5cc) ed

**The Baron** · 03-23-2005, 07:43 PM

One more point to keep in the back of your mind... 75mg ED of tren is a fairly stout, though usually not grossly excessive, dose for someone who has never done tren... if you notice bad sides like irrationally intense anger over minor crap, etc, reduce the tren dose first, rather than all three, and see if you should be running 50mgED. JMHO.

**XxElitexX** · 03-23-2005, 07:44 PM

send the tren to me

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 11:10 PM

can i mix tren and prop together ?

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 11:36 PM

bump

**kingpin054** · 03-23-2005, 11:49 PM

bump

**kingpin054** · 03-24-2005, 12:57 AM

bump fur an answer

**zuke** · 03-24-2005, 01:15 AM

yes you can run tren and prop together.

you are really contradicting yourself in your posts. at first you are saying that you are taking 105mg/wk of tren and then later you say that you are taking 75mg/eod, which would put you at least at 225mg/wk. which is it?

you first said that you were running your cycle for eight weeks, and then later said you were taking all of these aas's wk 1-6. how long are you actually running this cycle?

all of the stuff you listed is short esthers, so you could run them for a short cycle. there are people out there who swear by short cycles like that. each person has his own preference. have you started this cycle yet? if not, i would recommend planning it out a little better before you start.

**zuke** · 03-24-2005, 01:18 AM

you said that you have been reading and got scared of the cough. have you experienced the cough? i have never had a problem with it, and haven't from any of my bro's that they experienced it.

**The Baron** · 03-24-2005, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by kingpin054

can i mix tren and prop together ?

Of course. They are both oil based. Winny in oil would also mix perfectly with them. Some people even shoot regular water base winny together with oil, but the jury is still out on the advisability of that. I think if you do it this way:

1. draw the prop and tren , shake to mix if you like.

2. draw the winny, do not shake

3. change pins and inject

you would be okay. But if you try to shake water and oil to mix it, you get an emulsion that traps lots of air and stuf... I can't believe that would be a good thing.

Personally I won't mix oil and water in the same syringe. But that's me. But tren and prop? Sure, of course.

**The Baron** · 03-24-2005, 05:42 AM

Oh, and BTW, mixing winny with oils is not an issue with me anyway, because I can just drink it.

(cue for yet another "can I really drink winny?" thread)

**jerseyboy** · 03-24-2005, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by zuke

you said that you have been reading and got scared of the cough. have you experienced the cough? i have never had a problem with it, and haven't from any of my bro's that they experienced it.

It seems some people are more prone to the cough than others. I used to get it all the time, my buddy threw up his lunch from coughing so hard. I guess all it takes is being doubled over in the bathroom heaving uncontrollably once or twice for you to be aware of it.

**zuke** · 03-24-2005, 10:20 AM

yeah, but i don't think this guy has had it, just read about it. ****, if he wants to throw the gear away, i'll give him an address

**kingpin054** · 03-24-2005, 10:22 AM

thanks guys for the info, still not sure about drinking the winny? will it upset my stomach?

**zuke** · 03-24-2005, 10:24 AM

man, just do a search on the subject.

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