Another Tren / Test combo question

**co2boi** · 03-24-2005, 06:27 PM

Which would be more effective and why?

wk 1-12 Testosterone Propionate 70mg ed (or 150mg eod)
wk 1-10 Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ed (or 100mg eod)
wk 1-12 Nolvadex
wk 12-14 Clomid

- OR -

wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 350-500mg ew (~200 every 3rd with tren )
wk 1-10 Trenbolone Enanthate 200-400mg ew (~ 170 every 3rd with test)
wk 1-12 Nolvadex
wk 12-14 Clomid

- OR -

Same as as above but with tri tren?

I ask for obvious reasons. Why have ED shot's if I can get the same results? I realize blood levels may not remain as constant, but the longer ethers should balance most of it out right?

**soo2bhuge** · 03-24-2005, 06:31 PM

well, for one u may get more bloat with test e.
with shorter esters you can discontinue their use if u see side effects, whereas with longer esters u'll have to deal with those sides for a few weeks.

**co2boi** · 03-24-2005, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by soo2bhuge

well, for one u may get more bloat with test e.
with shorter esters you can discontinue their use if u see side effects, whereas with longer esters u'll have to deal with those sides for a few weeks.

hmm, good points, just not sure if either are enough to tolerate daily shots.

**tycin** · 03-24-2005, 07:00 PM

if u can do daily shots then i would go with prop,tren a, if not go with test e, tren e.

if u go with prop and tren a i would go 100mg/prop/ed and 75mg/tren/ed

**co2boi** · 03-24-2005, 07:03 PM

Cool, thanks for the feedback.. Can you elaborate a little. The 3 biggest factors influencing my decision are (1) Overall cost (2) ED injections (3) obtainable gains

**tycin** · 03-24-2005, 07:08 PM

elaborate on wut? if u go with prop/tren its ed injections, u'll get great lbm gains with no water. i love them 2gether. with test e, tren e u'll still get great gains but u will get more bloated from it but u only have to do 2 shots/week.

cost wise it all depends on your source, test e is probabl;y cheaper than prop but tren e is probably more expensive than tren a.

gains come down to diet

**don anabolico** · 03-24-2005, 07:10 PM

if your going to inverst your time, money, hard work, and your body in something, make sure you do it 100%. dont be lazy and go with the enthan. go with the faster ester for less sides, bloat, and easier recovery. especially with tren , you dont want your hair to start falling out than have to wait another week for that **** to be out your system.

**co2boi** · 03-24-2005, 07:14 PM

Great feedback guys. That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!

**GearIdentity** · 03-25-2005, 04:23 PM

Scar tissue build up might be another factor to consider with ed injects. Also, most people seem to be able to get away with less dosage on tren -e. So cost might not be all that influential. Sides shouldnt be a concern if you take the proper precautions.

**redmeat** · 03-25-2005, 04:26 PM

The only real difference is that you'll have to wait a few weeks for the longer esters to build up. So if you went that route, it would be a good idea to use a kickstart. Either an oral, or a short ester for 3-4 weeks.

And I personally don't bloat anymore with test enanthate than I do with test prop.