water bloat and lasix

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 01:57 PM

i have serious edema (water retention) problem, i bloat too much and having too much high blood pressure problem
my cycle
testoviron 500 10 weeks
deca 200 10 weeks
PCT clomid

first 2 weeks i didn't take any anti e, until i have a very noticable water bloat
on the third week
i took proviron50mg and nolvadex20mg ed to keep the bloat down, however it didn't work, i bumped proviron up to 75-100mg and nolvadex 40mg ED, the bloat stop continuing however, the bloat i had doesn't go down... i am desperate.. i went to the doctor... he perscribe LASIX ... but i know that it's dangerous so i didnt' take it yet... i tried arimidex .. it didnt' help decrease my bloat either...

anyway my question is.. is lasix my only way out? im having hard time breathing, sleeping, i sweat as hell, and i shake... really high blood pressure...my work out intensity has fallen due to this bloat.. i can't breath and the bloat is very uncomfortable..
now im on my 6th weeks, blaot is the same.. i have gained 40lbs already, and blood pressure seems to be killing me.. i wake up middle of the nite blood drippin down my nose.... i mean everytime i wake up.. blood all over my pillows..

i never had any health problem in the past.. regarding high blood pressure
im planning to take a very small dosage of lasix, is it worth it?

**Diesel** · 03-26-2005, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by russia dog

i have gained 40lbs already, and blood pressure seems to be killing me.. i wake up middle of the nite blood drippin down my nose.... i mean everytime i wake up.. blood all over my pillows..

This is very disturbing bro.

What was your BP at the Dr. office?

Did you tell the Dr. about your AAS use? If not then I would strongly advise that you do so.

I would also say, YOU NEED TO STOP YOUR CYCLE NOW! What you are experiencing is NOT normal.

**DocHoliday** · 03-26-2005, 02:09 PM

Stop Cycle!!

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:14 PM

i told him about AAS, he recommended that i discontinue my cycle, however we had a long talk and how much i wanna go on.. and so he told me to restricted my sodium, drinks 2 gallon of water... arimidex 1mG ED then i bumped it to 2MG.. yet again my bloat didnt' go down.. however it did stop continuing..

he told me lasix is to be considered,
i asked him about the health risks, but he told me if im this bloat.. that is not to be concerned....
he said lasix may cause sdrious health risks if you are already ripped, very low water, and try to cut more water, in which lasix will suck out water where it is essential to your body.. however, in case of edema.. lasix is to be considered... but im not sure.. i don't wanna harm my gain.. and i don't wanna bloat MORE.. i heard about the reverse effect

**DocHoliday** · 03-26-2005, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by russia dog

i told him about AAS, he recommended that i discontinue my cycle, however we had a long talk and how much i wanna go on.. and so he told me to restricted my sodium, drinks 2 gallon of water... arimidex 1mG ED then i bumped it to 2MG.. yet again my bloat didnt' go down.. however it did stop continuing..

he told me lasix is to be considered,
i asked him about the health risks, but he told me if im this bloat.. that is not to be concerned....
he said lasix may cause sdrious health risks if you are already ripped, very low water, and try to cut more water, in which lasix will suck out water where it is essential to your body.. however, in case of edema.. lasix is to be considered... but im not sure.. i don't wanna harm my gain.. and i don't wanna bloat MORE.. i heard about the reverse effect

It does not sound that you are in any position to come out winning in the end. I would suggest discontinuing the cycle and find other ways for acheiving your gains.

Doc

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:18 PM

i never had bloat/HBP problem before this.. i was ripped....
i have been supplementing with potassium too.. nothing seems to be working...... will lasix do the miracle? is it worth it.. pleasee help me out

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:20 PM

will the bloat go down if i stop the cycle? if so, should i wait another 4 weeks, i only have 4 weeks left until i completed this cycle

**DocHoliday** · 03-26-2005, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by russia dog

will the bloat go down if i stop the cycle? if so, should i wait another 4 weeks, i only have 4 weeks left until i completed this cycle

Did the bloat start because of the cycle?

You're asking us to tell you if you should wait out the 4weeks left of your cycle, after you've told us that you're suffering HBP, and are having extreme breathing problems?

Bro, stop the juice.

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:26 PM

there is absolutely no other way out of this?
yes bloat start because of the cycle....
would it go down if i stop the cycle?...
im afraid it wouldn't.. so u suggestin i shouldn't be touching LASIX?

**CastorTroy** · 03-26-2005, 02:27 PM

Bro, I strongly suggest you stop that cycle, what you are experiencing is not normal by any means.

**DocHoliday** · 03-26-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by russia dog

there is absolutely no other way out of this?
yes bloat start because of the cycle....
would it go down if i stop the cycle?...
im afraid it wouldn't.. so u suggestin i shouldn't be touching LASIX?

I'm sorry, do you not understand?

If the bloat was STARTED by the cycle, then by all means it will go away when you stop. I highly doubt that your HBP and water retention has been established as a permanent health risk. It's induced by the steroids . So cut it out.
Don't be a meathead. Your health is most important.

Doc

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:37 PM

so i just start PCT rite away?

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 02:38 PM

should i add lasix?

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 03:20 PM

hmmm
you see, my decision here is that i do not wish to discontinue my cycle...
i am looking for alternatives..... in solving this

my questions is... will small dosage of lasix be dangerous?, dangerous as in health risks
2nd question, will it harm my gain, if so how much

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 03:21 PM

i have seen many user use lasix to take care of excessive bloat, and in most cases, they said it is effective..
im only considering small dosage. may be 10-20mg ED for a few days
please help me answer my questions.

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 04:23 PM

bump bump

**Timetraviler** · 03-26-2005, 04:41 PM

Stop drugs and talk to your DR AGAIN just like you talk to us,

**russia dog** · 03-26-2005, 04:43 PM

please help a brother out

**CARNIVORE** · 03-26-2005, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by russia dog

please help a brother out

Well your Doc and others here are telling you to STOP your cycle. You don't want to hear that so just keep asking and som one will tell you what you want to hear. You only live once I hope this gets through....

If not stop asking

**Justarting** · 03-26-2005, 10:23 PM

Keep taking the AAS, but balance it out with some even more dangerous diuretics. After words go smoke some crack for energy and balance it out with some heroine to calm down. Happy now?

**Bouncer1982** · 03-26-2005, 10:44 PM

It's up to you Russia dog, everyone's saying stop the cycle, and man honestly is all these health problems really worth it you have already made good gains quit while your ahead.

**icewind** · 03-26-2005, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel

This is very disturbing bro.

What was your BP at the Dr. office?

Did you tell the Dr. about your AAS use? If not then I would strongly advise that you do so.

I would also say, YOU NEED TO STOP YOUR CYCLE NOW! What you are experiencing is NOT normal.

I must agree with Diesel.

Also, what dosages are you using ???

**scriptfactory** · 03-27-2005, 08:53 AM

Uh, I thought he said he talked to his doctor about the AAS and the doctor told him to take lasix. Why the hell are you here, bro? Your doctor told you that a reasonable dosage wouldn't hurt you. I don't think you are tell us the whole story.

I used to work in an emergency room and I will tell you that there are hundreds of thousands of people with problems like edema(bloat) taking low dosages of lasix every day. Hell, when I was in the Army I would take lasix before a PFT weigh-in so I wouldn't have to be measured for bodyfat.

To answer your question: if your doctor is prescribing lasix to you AND he knows you are currently on AAS then by all means go ahead. The lasix will help you drop your BP.

Edit: Also, your doctor is correct about the dangers of lasix. The vast majority of health concerns regarding this drug (from a BB perspective) are when people with already low levels of water in their body take a diuretic. If you have a high level of water in your body the dangers are very reduced, especially with moderate dosing by a physician.

**russia dog** · 03-27-2005, 09:48 AM

hmm thank you.. i was just wondering if it will harm my gain or, make me bloat more(reverse effect)..
i heard that, since this blaot is associate with estrogen, anti-e should do the job..
but it didn't