Originally Posted by Hed
Dont even consider tren man, tren is one of the, if not THE, most serious type of gear you can get into without using hGH or igf. Tren isnt a starter cycle man, its like a cycle 3 or 4 thing.
You said you wanted to put on some mass and shred some fat: tough to do at the same time. Id suggest doing test for 12 weeks, and at the end throw some winny in for the last 4 weeks.
500mg of Test Enanthate per week, 2 shots per week, for 12 weeks.
Winny dose, i cannot comment on, because i dont know enough about it. You'll have to find the dosage from someone else on here, but run it for the last 4 weeks of the cycle if you want to shred some fat. You will lose some fat anyway during the cycle, but the winny will help even more.
Just get that tren idea out of your head right now man, too soon.
Good luck.