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Thread: Var only plus HCG??
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03-27-2005, 05:18 PM #1
Var only plus HCG??
I just started a var only cycle of 75mg ED for 8 weeks. And lately I've been reading a lot about how it will still shut you down. What if I threw in a low dose of HCG at 250iu's E4D. Will this keep me from getting shut down or will it shut me down even more. I have a ton of HCG, so its no big deal to use. Oh yeah I plan on using 4g of trib ED.
Need the pro's and con's of doing this...
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03-27-2005, 06:14 PM #2
bump
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03-27-2005, 08:32 PM #3
anyone
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03-27-2005, 08:36 PM #4
Like I said before. I really think its a good idea. IMO you might not even get shut down. Are you not going to use clomid though?
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03-27-2005, 08:41 PM #5
im gonna use 2 weeks of clomid 1 day after my last... but lately i here people getting shut down during it
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03-27-2005, 08:45 PM #6Retired Vet
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Hmm....... I don't see why you would get shut down too bad personally.... at that dose and duration..........
I'd certainly like to hear more for myself as well........ good thread bro.
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03-27-2005, 08:47 PM #7
It may slightly shut you down, but nothing even close to what it's like coming off test for example. Jake Barnes thinks HCG would be overkill. The trib will keep your libido up, and 10-14 days of low dose clomid (Jake Barnes ran 50mg/day for 10 days) will leave you feeling like new.
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03-27-2005, 08:50 PM #8
How in the world would HCG be overkill? I think its a great idea.... trib HCG and then clomid.... you will keep everything that you have gained.
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03-27-2005, 08:53 PM #9Retired Vet
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I start var in a week, at 40mg/day for 7wks...
I planned on clomid/trib., but am reconsidering....
I'm at lower dosage, I know, but it's still something to consider....
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03-27-2005, 09:21 PM #10
at 40mg I think you will be alright...
I have enough HCG to last the rest of my life... so there would'nt be any ill side effects would there? Someone said it would shut you down more because it mimicks the Lutenizing hormone?? (sp?)
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03-27-2005, 09:25 PM #11
personally I wouldn't bother with the hcg . That's just me. I don't think you're in for too much of a difficult recovery.
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03-27-2005, 10:08 PM #12
I ran low dose var (not as a cycle, but to help tendonitus). I did notice some supression, and even a little atrophy. I think low dose hcg is not a bad idea at all as long as you plan to run clomid. It will keep your nutz ready to start their job again. As you know, hcg can fvck with natural test production, but I am a firm believer that if you keep you balls up to par, you will have quicker recovery. 75 mg a day for var is a pretty good amount so I think you are on the right page.
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var will not shut you down that hard. there is no need for the hcg in that cycle. also even after you pct you will keep 90% of your gains with var.
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03-28-2005, 12:55 AM #14
I would probably do the HCG if you have it sittin around. It can't hurt.l
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04-07-2005, 01:30 PM #15
bump... the answers are still 50/50
can it hurt at to do it? Im 14 days into it right now
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04-07-2005, 03:13 PM #16
IMO HCG is only neccessary for cycles longer than about 14 weeks and then you'd still only start using it half way through (week 7). So, I really don't see the need unless you start experiencing libido problems. In fact the HCG may shut down your HPTA even faster than var alone. You'd be better off sticking with the trib and throwing in 1g of Tongkat Ali ed and through pct.
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04-07-2005, 03:54 PM #17
I guess a PCT protocol consisting from Clomid only it would be better.
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04-07-2005, 04:28 PM #18
Var will not shut you down enough to warrant the use of HCG . HCG is mainly used on longer cycles.
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