What do you all think of running Prop at the end of an Enan cycle

**BWhitaker** · 03-31-2005, 05:48 PM

I was fumbling with the idea of running prop for those weeks after my last enanthate shot until pct...what do you think?

**kubano28** · 03-31-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

I was fumbling with the idea of running prop for those weeks after my last enanthate shot until pct...what do you think?

IS THE BEST WAY TO GO INTO PCT ,JUST MAKE SURE U STAR UR PCT 3TO 5 DAYS AFTER UT PROP SHOOT AND MAKE SURE IT HAS BEEN 14 DAYS BEFORE UR LAST ENATHATE SHOOT

**Lozgod** · 03-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Great idea. I jumpstarted and finished my last cycle with prop.

**Consistency** · 03-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Great idea. I jumpstarted and finished my last cycle with prop.

thats what i do!

**BWhitaker** · 03-31-2005, 07:10 PM

im about sold...thanks guys

one more question--i will be running 650mg test/wk...should i maintain that dose with the prop (i would assume so)

**Lozgod** · 03-31-2005, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

im about sold...thanks guys

one more question--i will be running 650mg test/wk...should i maintain that dose with the prop (i would assume so)

I did 750mg/wk of Enan, and when I did the prop, I did 150EOD of prop.

**G.I JOE** · 03-31-2005, 07:40 PM

Im not exactly sure about the % but prop gets used more efficiently so a lower dose= a high test e dosage.

**cut260** · 03-31-2005, 07:46 PM

Remember the only way to effectively go off when using a long acting ester such as Test E is to look at the half life. The comment about stopping the test E 14 days before the end of the cycle is way off when looking at how much you are using. Test E has a 15 day half life so if you are shooting 650mg per week then 15 days later you will still have 325mg and then 15 days after that approx 165mg etc. etc. So if you listened to the 14 day claim you would have not cut the test e soon enough and you would not have gone off cycle properly. Work backwards when planning on going off cycle. 14 days is way off. In fact with your amount of usage you should cut the Test E 5 weeks prior to ending your cycle and run Prop through to the last week.

Crap like time on is time off and an arbitrary 14 day waiting period is getting people into trouble medically. The ONLY way to go off cycle is to look at the half life of the ester being used. I am not trying to be hard on anyone because that has been the rubbish passed around by people who claim to be the experts, but if you study the esters and half lives all the pieces of the puzzle will come into place and you can really plan the cycles and off cycles safely and properly.

Best of luck to you

**Stackertoo** · 03-31-2005, 07:57 PM

Happening as we speak...

**johnsomebody** · 04-01-2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by cut260

Remember the only way to effectively go off when using a long acting ester such as Test E is to look at the half life. The comment about stopping the test E 14 days before the end of the cycle is way off when looking at how much you are using. Test E has a 15 day half life so if you are shooting 650mg per week then 15 days later you will still have 325mg and then 15 days after that approx 165mg etc. etc. So if you listened to the 14 day claim you would have not cut the test e soon enough and you would not have gone off cycle properly. Work backwards when planning on going off cycle. 14 days is way off. In fact with your amount of usage you should cut the Test E 5 weeks prior to ending your cycle and run Prop through to the last week.

Crap like time on is time off and an arbitrary 14 day waiting period is getting people into trouble medically. The ONLY way to go off cycle is to look at the half life of the ester being used. I am not trying to be hard on anyone because that has been the rubbish passed around by people who claim to be the experts, but if you study the esters and half lives all the pieces of the puzzle will come into place and you can really plan the cycles and off cycles safely and properly.

Best of luck to you

Excellent advice! Worth repeating.

**kubano28** · 04-01-2005, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by cut260

Remember the only way to effectively go off when using a long acting ester such as Test E is to look at the half life. The comment about stopping the test E 14 days before the end of the cycle is way off when looking at how much you are using. Test E has a 15 day half life so if you are shooting 650mg per week then 15 days later you will still have 325mg and then 15 days after that approx 165mg etc. etc. So if you listened to the 14 day claim you would have not cut the test e soon enough and you would not have gone off cycle properly. Work backwards when planning on going off cycle. 14 days is way off. In fact with your amount of usage you should cut the Test E 5 weeks prior to ending your cycle and run Prop through to the last week.

Crap like time on is time off and an arbitrary 14 day waiting period is getting people into trouble medically. The ONLY way to go off cycle is to look at the half life of the ester being used. I am not trying to be hard on anyone because that has been the rubbish passed around by people who claim to be the experts, but if you study the esters and half lives all the pieces of the puzzle will come into place and you can really plan the cycles and off cycles safely and properly.

Best of luck to you

sh!t bro ,do u have any more info about this,if you are right about this ,then i say 80%of the bros here have the wrong way bout getting off a test cycle,good info bro !!!!!

**kubano28** · 04-01-2005, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by cut260

Remember the only way to effectively go off when using a long acting ester such as Test E is to look at the half life. The comment about stopping the test E 14 days before the end of the cycle is way off when looking at how much you are using. Test E has a 15 day half life so if you are shooting 650mg per week then 15 days later you will still have 325mg and then 15 days after that approx 165mg etc. etc. So if you listened to the 14 day claim you would have not cut the test e soon enough and you would not have gone off cycle properly. Work backwards when planning on going off cycle. 14 days is way off. In fact with your amount of usage you should cut the Test E 5 weeks prior to ending your cycle and run Prop through to the last week.

Crap like time on is time off and an arbitrary 14 day waiting period is getting people into trouble medically. The ONLY way to go off cycle is to look at the half life of the ester being used. I am not trying to be hard on anyone because that has been the rubbish passed around by people who claim to be the experts, but if you study the esters and half lives all the pieces of the puzzle will come into place and you can really plan the cycles and off cycles safely and properly.

Best of luck to you

.............In fact with your amount of usage you should cut the Test E 5 weeks prior to ending your cycle and run Prop through to the last week......................

if what u r saying is 100% accurate,about stoping test e 5 weeks prior to the pct,then an example test cycle will have to look like this:
test e 1-10
test prop 1-4
test prop 10-15
pct 15-18
just an example,so u will need at least a 15 week test cycle,

does it makes sense

**beavertrap** · 04-01-2005, 08:14 PM

http://www.intense-training.com/archive/t-556.html (Is this info wrong on half life of enanthate @ 10.5 days)? I have seen anywhere from 6 days to 15. Anybody know for sure?

**BWhitaker** · 04-01-2005, 11:53 PM

Lets get some more bro's who know whats up with this...

...remember its only great advice if its right advice

**niXon)(** · 04-01-2005, 11:57 PM

bump^^^^^^^^^

**Juddman** · 04-02-2005, 12:11 AM

bump

**Juice08** · 04-02-2005, 12:17 AM

Bump.. I would like some info on this as well

**johnsomebody** · 04-07-2005, 03:42 PM

I'm gonna post the quote in the PCT section and see what people say, so check over there. Makes major sense to me.

**Consistency** · 04-07-2005, 05:51 PM

You also have to give clomid time to build up and become saturated and stable in your bloodstream... this will take a few days and why its building up the test is still leaving your system.

**cyberthug66** · 04-07-2005, 06:28 PM

Makes sense. I've always followed Pheedno's pct and was happy....wonder what I was missing out on (along with 99% of the bros on this site). I'd like to hear more on the subject.