Not getting big gains!!! help please!!!

**benchin' big** · 04-02-2005, 01:50 PM

right now i'm on my 2nd week of a test 400 deca 300 cycle... dont know if i need more food intake or up the gear...

Stats: 5'10 200lbs.

cycle: test 400 (400 mg) and deca (300mg) a week...

food : right around 4-5K cal. per day...

when i started my cycle i was around 192lbs

any advice or comments ????? Thanks

**BlInDsIdE** · 04-02-2005, 01:53 PM

well in my experience my test and deca didn't kick in until wk 4 or 5. are the cal ur getting all clean? hows ur training and rest?

**Gear** · 04-02-2005, 01:53 PM

Too early to tell. Wait a few more weeks.

-Gear

**tycin** · 04-02-2005, 01:55 PM

lol... u gotta give it time bro, ur only 2 weeks in!! give to week 5 and u will feel it.

wut are ur stats? and how long u plan on running ur cycle?

**BlInDsIdE** · 04-02-2005, 01:57 PM

lol yeah bro i agree with tycin normally the only time ur gonna expect gains in the first few wks is on something like drol or dbol that kickstarts ur cycle.

**Booz** · 04-02-2005, 02:04 PM

agree with all abouve,the gear dont norm kick off till at least wk 4

**Jay-Gunz** · 04-02-2005, 02:37 PM

If you did not know that your gear would take 4 or so weeks to kick in then you should have done more research pre-cycle

**Governor** · 04-02-2005, 10:37 PM

2 weeks in and you are up 8 pounds? I wish my cycles were that bad.

**AG5678** · 04-02-2005, 10:40 PM

yea like the bros say its to early. i would maybe up the dose of both the Deca and Test. If you wanted to see quick results you should have gotten some Dbol

**peaker** · 04-02-2005, 10:46 PM

mate your only 2 weeks in, give it a few more weeks for things to start coming together

**Anabolica** · 04-02-2005, 10:52 PM

bump

**DrugsrGood** · 04-02-2005, 10:57 PM

Due to long half lives of both, you wont begin to see gains till around week 4

**jbone30** · 04-02-2005, 11:06 PM

My bro is in his second week and he is like Im stronger and bigger and ya know what?...he is Noticably alot bigger and stronger..I was like dude your trippin..its water weight and he flexed and was bigger..we were workin out and hes stronger..alot stronger..alot of it I think is placebo..even in the later weeks..I mean think about it if my bro has never heard (which he hasnt) that strength and size gains come in week 4 and 5 like I did and he is injecting test in his blood then he could start seeing them now right, like he is..and I started seeing them in week 5 ..ya think its because thats what weve learned?..Im not going to tell him week 5 and see if he keeps growing

**benchin' big** · 04-02-2005, 11:54 PM

so far clean cals. and i'm going to run it for at least 10 at most 12 weeks... i have noticed a bit stronger but its my first cycle and hoping to come out big....

**chris2wire** · 04-02-2005, 11:57 PM

personally, i feel you shouldnt be doing gear if you know so little that you think 2 weeks should yield huge (if any) gains.

I dont know SQUAT about AAS, but even I know thats ridiculous.

**511220** · 04-03-2005, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by jbone30

My bro is in his second week and he is like Im stronger and bigger and ya know what?...he is Noticably alot bigger and stronger..I was like dude your trippin..its water weight and he flexed and was bigger..we were workin out and hes stronger..alot stronger..alot of it I think is placebo..even in the later weeks..I mean think about it if my bro has never heard (which he hasnt) that strength and size gains come in week 4 and 5 like I did and he is injecting test in his blood then he could start seeing them now right, like he is..and I started seeing them in week 5 ..ya think its because thats what weve learned?..Im not going to tell him week 5 and see if he keeps growing

Are you two identical twins?

511220

**j martini** · 04-03-2005, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by benchin' big

so far clean cals. and i'm going to run it for at least 10 at most 12 weeks... i have noticed a bit stronger but its my first cycle and hoping to come out big....

You are not going to get huge overnight it takes time. You probably wont be where you want to be until you have done lots of cycles trained for 10 years plus and dieted religiously.
There is no short cut this takes hard work AAS are not.

**crazymass** · 04-03-2005, 10:24 AM

keep up with the cycle and up your protein intake.

**jbone30** · 04-03-2005, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by 511220

Are you two identical twins?

511220

Actually close he is my 1 year younger brother same build since we were kids height shoe size weight

**511220** · 04-03-2005, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by jbone30

Actually close he is my 1 year younger brother same build since we were kids height shoe size weight

Well you two are genitically different. Just stick to a solid regime and you will grow. You have many years to tweak your training and see waht works best for you.

Dont try to be an overnight success here. Patience, consistancy, diet, training and rest will get you the gains.

BTW, you avatar is funny as sh*t...

511220

**TheBrent** · 04-03-2005, 09:46 PM

so then, in week 4-5 the major weight gain comes , along with the strength too?

**jbone30** · 04-03-2005, 09:51 PM

Your right about the genes , My other brother is endo-meso where as we are ecto-meso ,we started the same time and Im getting quicker gains than endo brother guess Im somewhere in the middle..funny thing about the avatar is its true..from your avatar it looks like your back is probably as ripped as the front..lookin good

**redmeat** · 04-03-2005, 10:29 PM

What exactly did you expect? 30 lbs in the first week?

**goinallin** · 04-04-2005, 12:56 AM

8 lbs in two weeks, the first two weeks let alone, is no let down. If your expecting 30 lbs at all your tripping. It's nearly impossible to put on and keep 30 lbs from one cycle. Many say they do, but it's bull****.(Not saying it's impossible to put on 40-50lbs on a cycle, keeping its another thing)
But if your eating 4-5k cals a day(hopefully clean and not ****, or ur askin for other probs) and your training is on point, it's split into at least 6 meals, and u get at least 8 hours sleep, and u already put on 8 elbows, ur in for a good one bro. Enjoy.