I'm reading threads and seeing guys on their 3rd or 4th cycles still using 500 test, or maybe 750 if they're real adventurous. And these are the same ones wondering why they're not growing the way they did on their very first cycles. The bigger you get, the more gear you need to grow, just like with food. Upping your doses by 100-200 mgs each cycle isn't telling your body anything. Your body doesn't want to be 300 lbs with abs. It wants to be 150-170. In order to make it change, you have to give it a reason to. You have to eat massive quantities of protein and nutrients so that there is something to create these new muscles with. You have to go to the gym and push yourself to the point of exhaustion so that there is a stimulus for your body to grow. And finally you have to supply your body with androgens far exceeding it's natural levels.
What I fail to understand is why people will take it to the max with eating and training, but then skimp on the drugs. Growth is a 3 pronged attack and if you remove one of the prongs the whole thing is going to be lackluster. I was over a gram of test after my first year of juicing. Now I'm over 2 grams. You know why your gains were so amazing on your first cycle? It's because you had an androgen level that your body had never even come close to seeing before. Ok, now you've done a cycle and you're starting your 2nd one. You keep the test the same dose, but add in a little eq or deca. Whoopedy doo. Your body says "big deal" and after 12 weeks you've gained 5 lbs of muscle and 5 lbs of fat, and 10 lbs of water. Great cycle.
I'm not trying to flame anyone or start any fights or anything, I just want to know why you guys kill yourselves in the gym and in the kitchen, but then hold back on the drugs. Is it fear? Money? What's the reason?
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Originally Posted by Blown_SC
