determine the best cycle for me

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 05:46 AM

it is about that time again and i am looking for a dense hard look..

in december i was 125,5 kilo's (276,5 lbs) @ 17 bf
and have started cutting for a month now back to 113,5 kilo (250 lbs) @ 12 % bc

I was thinking of doing something like:
winstrol
test cyp 500mg/w (maybe omnadren )
deca
clen

the goal is to get back @ 120 kilo and keep like 117 till september (lean mass) and then bulk up to 128

how about it guys?

**GOATNUTS** · 04-12-2005, 05:49 AM

how many cycles have you done?

***xxx*** · 04-12-2005, 05:51 AM

deca and test cyp is nothing for a hard look, though diet decides in which direction u want to go. still I would stick with short esthers like test prop and no nandrolon, use some tren and may be some var.

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by GOATNUTS

how many cycles have you done?

this is gonna be the 7th

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

deca and test cyp is nothing for a hard look, though diet decides in which direction u want to go. still I would stick with short esthers like test prop and no nandrolon, use some tren and may be some var.

how would u suggest the dosages?

**GOATNUTS** · 04-12-2005, 06:16 AM

try some tren /test...i would do tren enath over tren ace. its your preference though. tren enath 400mg wk - 10wk and test 800mg wk - 12wk.

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 07:37 AM

no winny with that?

**zuke** · 04-12-2005, 07:42 AM

test prop/tren ace... you can shoot them together to help with the prop pain.

that's what i am doing next, and i am going 100mg/day prop, 75mg/day tren.

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by zuke

test prop/tren ace... you can shoot them together to help with the prop pain.

that's what i am doing next, and i am going 100mg/day prop, 75mg/day tren.

how are u getting along... do u notice the hardness and low water retention? and also how is your body weight?

***xxx*** · 04-12-2005, 07:51 AM

nah, fark winstrol . I dunno how u dosed ur other cycles, but I would dose in this range: 150 mg prop eod, 100 mg tren ace eod, 50 mg of var ed.

**Titan1** · 04-12-2005, 07:53 AM

Use Tren /prop and Winny you´ll be strong as hell and rock hard or Tren/prop and Turanabol

***xxx*** · 04-12-2005, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by Titan1

Use Tren/prop and Winny you´ll be strong as hell and rock hard

and ur joints and tendons will be farking screaming besides u ll have a ****ed up lipid profile

**zuke** · 04-12-2005, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by johndope

how are u getting along... do u notice the hardness and low water retention? and also how is your body weight?

i'm not starting that cycle till mid june

**johndope** · 04-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

nah, fark winstrol. I dunno how u dosed ur other cycles, but I would dose in this range: 150 mg prop eod, 100 mg tren ace eod, 50 mg of var ed.

and what about dosing it daily and splitting the doses since it is shortly active in the body? i dont mind being a dartboard

or will it still lap each other? and what about the clen ? shall i add it? or start it after the cure?

**johndope** · 04-13-2005, 06:21 AM

kick

***xxx*** · 04-13-2005, 06:43 AM

u can do it eod or ed, it wouldn t matter.

var has to be splitted in 3 parts a day.

**johndope** · 04-13-2005, 06:49 AM

great stuff xxx m8 gonna give my supplier a call...

so what about the clen ? during or after or not at all as my diet will by high proteine low carb an no cheating at all

**zuke** · 04-13-2005, 06:52 AM

how long are you going to run this cycle?

**johndope** · 04-13-2005, 07:47 AM

10 wks

***xxx*** · 04-13-2005, 07:48 AM

wouldn t use clen , but there r different opinions on it mate! I would use it risk/benefit ratio is real bad...

**johndope** · 04-13-2005, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

wouldn t use clen, but there r different opinions on it mate! I would use it risk/benefit ratio is real bad...

enlighten me m8!! seen a lot of post of guys claiming heavy lifting in threads like http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...95#post1740895 but somehow u are one of the few that gives me the idea u know what u are talking about