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04-12-2005, 09:49 AM #1Junior Member
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best/safest 1st cycle suggestions?
For a 1st time what do u recks is the best cycle?
Many say just do 8-10 weeks:
1-10: Test E @ 500mg/wk ( need to split 250mg monday + 250mg Thursday?Or can just do 500mg every 5-7 days?)
1-10: Proviron 25mg ed
1-10: Nolva 10mg ed
Clomid pct starting 18 days after last jab
Maybe use Dbol weeks 1-4 to kickstart @ 30mg ed? Is this worth it?
What do u think? Basically safest 1st cycle...i.e.least side effects and good gains.
Also with pct cause u only start 18 days after last jab do u continue running the nolva @ 10mg ed? And do u need nolva + clomid pct or is nolva enough (regarding gyno)?
Any suggestions of a better cycle?
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04-12-2005, 09:59 AM #2
i would go like this bro
1-4 30mg dbol ed
1-12 500mg test E inject mon/tues
1-12 20mg nolva ed
1-12 proviron 25 ed
make it 12wk if you can this is a simple first cycle & about the dbol yes use it to kickstart the cycle because the test will kick in at wk4 or 5 & for the pct you need to run clomid & nolva clomid 300mg first day & then 100 for a month & the nolva 20mg along with the clomid & for the gyno 20mg nolva & 25mg proviron should block the estrogen dont worry about it just remember cycle without a good diet= waste of money eat well & train well
good luck
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04-12-2005, 11:11 AM #3Junior Member
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bump anymore opinions??
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04-12-2005, 11:54 AM #5
Can someone explain the whole "test will kick in at week 4 or 5" thing to me? I dont understand the kicking in?
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04-12-2005, 11:59 AM #6Originally Posted by beastrg
Usually you would do a split of the test.
And it will be 14 days after your last Test shot, not 18
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04-12-2005, 12:15 PM #7
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04-13-2005, 06:27 AM #8Junior Member
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bump any more suggestions??
Also anti estrogens on cycle....whats the best:
1.) 10mg nolva + 25mg proviron
2.) 20mg nolva
3.)50mg proviron?
also is it far better to split the dose 250mg mon and 250mg thursday or could u not just do 1 jab like every 5 days or once a week? It will be my 1st time injecting and dont mind it, but if can inject once a week rather than 2 id prefer!Last edited by beastrg; 04-13-2005 at 07:52 AM.
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04-13-2005, 08:07 AM #9Junior Member
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04-13-2005, 08:24 AM #10
Read this to undetsand PCT Pheedno's PCT Shooting once a week is OK for Test E, twice a week is better for your hormone levels but you can get away with once a week. As for Anti-E's on cycle, most use 10mg ED of Nolvadex if they do it at all, its up to you. A lot oe bro's just have it on hand in case of gyno symptoms
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04-13-2005, 08:28 AM #11
looks ok, but provirion...? run the test 2 weeks longer, u ll be more happy with the results.
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