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    OK, getting ready to start

    Hello all. I have been thinking about starting AAS for some time now. I have decided I want to compete next year. I have been training off and on for about 8 years. Steady now for about 2 1/2 years all natural.
    I am 30 y/o, male, 5'11", 180-185 lbs. I have been researching everything that I can. I was planning on going with the cycle that TheMudMan posted HERE . I've also been looking at all the threads seanw posted HERE .

    I have pretty much decided to do the following cycle WITH proper PCT. I do however have a question for those that have done the following cycle or have used Enanthate ...
    What were your gains and did you have any major side effects? I've read about all the possible sides of Enanthate and I'm starting to second guess my choice. Someone point me in the right direction. This is my first cycle and I just want to make sure it's a good one.


    1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
    1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

    seanw's recommendation for PCT

    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

    Thanks in advance for any info.
    Last edited by massff; 04-16-2005 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Typo

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    if its ur first the eq isnt nesasary. 500mg/wk 13 weeks should be fine too, people usually go 12

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    looks like u av done your reasearch, cycle and pct looks good,although i would run the test higher than the eq,good solid cycle 4 a 1st time user.

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    the cycle you posted is a fine place to start. consider taking the Nolvadex as optional. most people wont need nolv on this cycle.

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    Thanks for the replies! That was fast!

    Now the "What if.."

    What if I subbed Cypionate or Proprionate for the Enanthate ?

    I also have Primo on hand. Would that would be OK to include in a 2nd cycle? I'd do a search, but is not working for me currently.

    Thanks.

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    cyp aint much diff to the test e,only 1 ester i think, u can use the prop but that really means ed jabs 75mg would b good.

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    OK, thanks for the info.

    Has anyone experienced sides of Test E? I would like to know. I just don't want to end up with some man breasts and look like the Sta-Puff Marshmallow man.

    I guess I'm just needing some reassurance, that's all. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massff
    OK, thanks for the info.

    Has anyone experienced sides of Test E? I would like to know. I just don't want to end up with some man breasts and look like the Sta-Puff Marshmallow man.

    I guess I'm just needing some reassurance, that's all. Thanks.
    Test E is my favorite. Prop is great if you want to keep water off, but it would be much more of a hassle to keep test levels stable. I would suggest Test E or cyp and have some anti-e's on hand.

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    Good luck bro.

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    as long as youv got nolva on hand u should b ok,good to go man.

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    OK. Thanks again.

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    OK, one more question. Will I need to take any HCG for the above cycle? Just checking if it's necessary. Thanks.
    Last edited by massff; 05-03-2005 at 05:31 PM.

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    Only if the step children go north. From everything I have read 250iu every 3 days last 1/2 of cycle.

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    Bro you wont need HCG if this is your first cycle

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