2nd cycle too early for tren?

**ryan9101** · 04-17-2005, 06:15 PM

I am planning my second cycle and just wanted to know if tren is too powerful of a compound to use.

My first cycle was as follows:
Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg
Weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day
PCT with clomid, nolva, and trib.

I had planned something like this for a second cycle:
Weeks 1-15 Test e 500mg or 750mg
Weeks 1-12 deca or eq 400mg
Weeks 7-12 Anavar 30mg/day

**godofwar99** · 04-17-2005, 06:20 PM

ryan, what were your gains on your first cycle. I am about to start that cycle myself.

also what sides...and what brand did you use for your TEST and dbol

thanks bro

**arnoldwannab** · 04-17-2005, 06:34 PM

I wouldn't say that it is to early, but tren does shut you down hard. I would use it however. It is a great drug. I will use tren in every cycle from here on out. And i wouldn't run 750mg of test, stick with 500mg. something like this:

1-15 test 500mg a week
1-16 eq 400mg a week
8-17 tren 75mg ED
pct

**Deezuhl** · 04-17-2005, 06:39 PM

I'm on this cycle right now and it really is only my 2nd. My 1st was winny only 50mg eod 5 weeks. Dont ask why. i found this board after. I'm only 1 week in so i cant tell you how its going yet other than that the tren sides suck for sure.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
1 - 12 Tren E 400mg /wk
13 - 16 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 16 Letro 1.25mg EOD
1 - 16 Nolva 10mg ED

**Thegr8One** · 04-17-2005, 06:42 PM

tren is some potent shlt bro ya may want to forego it till your 3rd or 4th cycle but the ultimate decission is up to you

**Deezuhl** · 04-17-2005, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Thegr8One

tren is some potent shlt bro ya may want to forego it till your 3rd or 4th cycle but the ultimate decission is up to you

is the reason for waiting because you build a better resistance to the sides??

**Thegr8One** · 04-17-2005, 06:48 PM

the way i see it your body has had a couple of cycles run through it and like you sayd is somewhat use to the sides and it should lessen the sides
then again i have heard of ppl doing tren their first cycle and having next to no neg sides
it's a tricky one that tren

**ryan9101** · 04-17-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Fat Mike

I'm on this cycle right now and it really is only my 2nd. My 1st was winny only 50mg eod 5 weeks. Dont ask why. i found this board after. I'm only 1 week in so i cant tell you how its going yet other than that the tren sides suck for sure.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 12 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
1 - 12 Tren E 400mg /wk
13 - 16 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 16 Letro 1.25mg EOD
1 - 16 Nolva 10mg ED

Can I ask what sides you're experiencing?

**arnoldwannab** · 04-17-2005, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by ryan9101

Can I ask what sides you're experiencing?

I had no sides at all my first time using tren . I felt great and became strong as a mother ****er. I swear by tren

**redmeat** · 04-18-2005, 06:30 AM

My first cycle was test/tren . As long as you can handle the ED shots I don't see a problem. I recommend b6 for the sides. Works wonders for me.

**Deezuhl** · 04-18-2005, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by redmeat

My first cycle was test/tren. As long as you can handle the ED shots I don't see a problem. I recommend b6 for the sides. Works wonders for me.

tren isnt an everyday shot. the sides i got from it was test flu within a week but that has passed and sweating thru the sheets at night. All i am awaiting now is for the strength gains!!!

**The Baron** · 04-18-2005, 08:41 AM

Your proposed second cycle, as written, looks good to me. I would do the test/deca or test/eq, 500/400mg respectively. You did the right thing for your first one. You learned how test affects you. Now, learn how this basic stack affects you. For your THIRD cycle, you could certainly experiment with tren . It is a great drug, but sides can be troublesome for some people. Sides from the standard test/deca or test/eq stack are minimal, and you can be assured, (given proper diet) that you will make impressive gains and not have to stop or reduce the doses.

For your first tren cycle, use acetate (fina) because if sides become a problem, you can cut the dose or stop, and your levels will fall quickly. With a long estered tren, you are stuck with your sides for a lot longer before they start to go away, even after stopping the tren. So the short ester is better for your first experiment.

**Mesomorphyl** · 04-18-2005, 08:57 AM

You might just be happy with doing 500mg test / 400mg eq / 400mg deca . Run the test 14 weeks and the eq and deca 12weeks. Drop the var until next cycle and run it with your third at least 40mg(60mg is better) ed with your 750mg of test and 500mg of tren per week.

If you kick off with dbol up the dose to 40mg - worth it.