Symtoms of Gyno

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 07:20 PM

I DEFINITELY have a lump behind my right nipple that developed a few days before I started my second cycle of which i am on week 2. I just ordered some Tamox(nolva) and was wondering how I should take it. start with 20mg a day to see if it goes down, or drench it with 80mgs a day for a few days, to get the lump down, its not really visible but you can feel it.

Thanks

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 07:39 PM

bump

**Blown_SC** · 04-18-2005, 07:40 PM

Chill, it's only been 19mins

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How long ago was your last cycle? Proper PCT?

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 07:42 PM

yeah proper everything I learned well from this board it was almost 6 months ago, so developing that lump was weird about 2 weeks ago

RA · 04-18-2005, 07:54 PM

Tamox will not take it away. Sorrry to tell you that...I would take the mox and to reduce the damage and order some letro, some people have had luck getting rid of it with that.

RA · 04-18-2005, 07:56 PM

I forgot...You should take the letro and tamox at the same time once you get it.

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 08:41 PM

OK how much of each should I take once I receive it? Is the letro a cream you spread on?

**Blown_SC** · 04-18-2005, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

OK how much of each should I take once I receive it? Is the letro a cream you spread on?

http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=42

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 09:13 PM

it doesnt really say, I'm guessing since its flavord it goes in the mouth, but how many sprays should I do to start with the nolva to get the mild swelling down?

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 09:20 PM

Will proviron have any effect on it?

**soo2bhuge** · 04-18-2005, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

Will proviron have any effect on it?

no. stick to letro and nolva

**hardgainer1** · 04-18-2005, 10:07 PM

so 20mg nolva and how much letro to start off, i ordered both to be overnighted, I only notice the problem a couple weeks ago so I think i should be alright.

RA · 04-19-2005, 06:36 AM

5 sprays eod. One guy even spread it around his nip but I dont know if that does anything.

**The Baron** · 04-19-2005, 07:06 AM

Apparently, both letro and anastrozole can be applied topically, if they are in the right carrier, for good resuts. I am not sure exacty how this works... possibly a lot of the aromatase activity is in the breast tissue itself, and the letro prevents aromatase activity locally, in which case it would have less effect in the whole body, I think. Or possibly it can also act as an anti-estrogen, which I sort of doubt.

Anyway, yeah, load with a high dose of both, get the symptoms under control, and then you can reduce to a normal dose as indicated. 60mg of nolva and 1mg of letro would not be excessive, to start.

Odd that you developed gyno before you started your cycle... how old are you? You better keep an eye on that lump. Since there was no reason for you to be developing gyno, you should perhaps bring it to your doc's attention. Breast cancer is not unknown in men. Not to be alarmist, but I would try to eliminate that possibility early on.

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 07:28 AM

I am 26, it is strange. Will all this anti e affect my cycle gains at all?

RA · 04-19-2005, 07:31 AM

Yes but I would rather be a little smaller than huge w/ tits.

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 07:48 AM

true, its not going to kill my whole cycle though , I just do the high doses for a day or 2 and level off

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 08:28 AM

Rub the letro on my gyno?

**The Baron** · 04-19-2005, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

Rub the letro on my gyno?

Why not? That would only use up maybe .25mg for both nips. There was a thread about this, and anecdotally, it seems to work. Lion said, I believe, that the base of his product should allow some transdermal delivery. Don't quote me on that though. Probably depends a lot on the carrier, yes. I have been getting itchy nips and just a hint of soreness. No lumps yet. Started nolva and I also am rubbing in anastrozole. I won't, of course, have any idea whether the topical application is truly working, but oh, it feels so good on my tender young breasts... oooooohhhhhhh..... SOOOOOOO Good!

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 09:27 AM

im gonna start with 60mg nolva ed and see if that takes down the swelling, any idea how the ar-r nolva tastes?

RA · 04-19-2005, 09:34 AM

From what I experienced that would not be enough. I think the letro/nolva combo would work better but good luck.

**The Baron** · 04-19-2005, 10:15 AM

Tastes great! (less filling?)

Aftertaste does not linger like it used to in the old formula. I like it just fine.

RA · 04-19-2005, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Baron

Tastes great! (less filling?)

Aftertaste does not linger like it used to in the old formula. I like it just fine.

I dont know what the aar nolva tastes like but the letro tastes like **it!

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 02:20 PM

its coming 2morrow, ill let you know if it works, im gonna go 60mgs a day for a week see what happens,

**Angel of death** · 04-19-2005, 02:23 PM

I think AARs letro tastes good

PT · 04-19-2005, 03:25 PM

i do to. try ***'s and then try arr's and you'll realize how good arr's taste

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 03:31 PM

so you dont add it to water you just straight down it from the syringe?

**The Baron** · 04-19-2005, 05:04 PM

That's what I do... just squirt it right in my mouth. You could maybe squirt it into your protein shake or coffee or something, I guess, but I like to just get it down.

**hardgainer1** · 04-19-2005, 06:26 PM

i cant wait, i am gonna saturate this gyno till it chokes, 60mgs enough you think to zap it? you can BARELY see that i have it at all, its so sleight.

**hardgainer1** · 04-20-2005, 06:06 PM

OK so i got my stuff in, took 60mg of tamox(tasted ok) and did 5 squirts of letro, plus one on the affected area and rubbed it in. the letro is greasy, it doesnt really "spray" it just pumps out a bit

**The Baron** · 04-20-2005, 08:10 PM

That's the stuff. If no improvement overnight, up the tamox to 80. Gotta reverse it quick. Once you got sizeable lumps, it is really really really hard to get rid of, and usually requires surgery.