why is winstrol so hard to inject?
I started a propinate, winny, clen stack the other day and there is only one problem. The winny is nearly impossible to inject. It passes through the needle fine while it is in the vial, but as soon as I put it in the muscle, it won't hardly go through. It is like there is a stopper at the end of the needle. I have to push really hard and then it comes out really fast. Afterwords the muscles hurts like hell. ANy ideas or solutions?
Also how long does winny usually hurt for?
I know I could drink it but I am pretty adement about injecting it for various reasons.
Thanks
Not my field, but here goes...
Did I hear my name mentioned? :D
Seriously, I've never done winny, so I can't tell you too much. But the answers I've seen here are pretty pausible. I concur with the suggestion of going with a larger pin - if you have any crystalization in the syringe, this should help.
As far as whether to drink or inject, winny is known as one of the few AS where there appears to be some evidence that site injections will have some impact directly on the local muscle into which it is injected. (Having said that, however, I should tell you that I do not generally endorse site injections. My own feeling is that their effectiveness is largely a myth, although I acknowledge that there's a diversity of opinion on this in the AS world.)
From everything I've seen, you're better off with the injectable form of winny (preferably good ol' U-S-of-A Winstrol-V) than the oral tablets; not only is the IM preparation more efective (as is the case with other AS such as testosterone), the IM form has less side effects than the orals.
If you are doing the injection correctly and using the right size needle, you should not have too much difficulty. Water-based solutions will always go in faster, even if there is minimal crystalization. In fact, normally I would recommend a 25 g. needle for any water base, but if crystalization is a problem, go to 22 or 23 gauge. As for length, it's the usual rap: 1-1/2" for glutes, 1" for delts or quads, keeping in mind that you'll probably be injecting 1 or 2 cc's at a time, depending on whether you inject daily, EOD, or less frequently.
As for the pain from the injections, any pain you feel is often due to an injection's alcohol content. Honestly, I'm not aware of the BA content in winny, since the only legally manufactrued winny here in the U.S. (Winstrol-V, from Upjohn) is for veterinary use - thus, it is not listed in the Physician's Desk Reference (the standard compendium of prescribing information for all regulated drugs), and I haven't seen the breakdown of ingredients.
By the way, not all water soluables hurt like hell. One of the water soluables I do is cyanocobalimin - the injectable form of Vitamin B12. It's one of the cheapest injectables on the market today (30 cc's retails for about $4), and there is no crystalization factor. I use a 25 g. needle, never have any resistance, and can't say that I ever have any burning effect from it.
(Alright, campers, don't go running out to buy it until you've done your research. If you want to read about it in detail, I've answered a few posts on it in teh past. You can get some practice in the A.R. search function at the top of this screen by searching on the word cyanocobalimin. :))
