Ive talked to a few of you who are doing Test E cycles while cutting instead of Prop,..i assume youve choosen this bacuase of the price difference which is why im considering it too. My question is how are you avoiding the water retention. I used nolva on my test e cycle and still blew up,..i admitt the diet was 100% legit but the bloat was insane..Please share the seacret if there is one.....
i use test e every time i cut, just because i dont like the many injections with prop. i take l-dex for the bloat, and it works just fine. .25mg works like a charm.
I cry the bloat out of me ;(
I also use test e. I don't care about ED pinning, but prop pain is debilitating. I too use .25mg of arimidex ED and I don't think I'm not holding any extran water at all. I've been hearing alot about Rebound XT also. Haven't tried that yet though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opey
l-dex, tons of water, and low sodium intake
Yep, I happen to have some Arimidex (same thing only in pill form and more expensive). At .25 mg ED, it's keeping the water down nicely. If you're particularly prone, throw in 10mg Nolva ED.
would you guys condiser that if following these instructions,..you will hold around the same anout as Prop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum II
Try some nolva (10-20mg) and proviron (50-100mg) maybe some arimidex (.25mg)...
What u mean by price though my Prop is about $0.50-$1 cheaper per gram than Test E. And I brew my own so conciderably less painful.
when i posted this, my prop was more expensive than Enanthate,..Its now cheaper too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelis
ive never used Arimidex,..just Nolva..how is it for Gyno compared to Letro!,,No one seems to have a straight answer for this question.
i like proviron personally... even stacking proviron and nolva. haven't had to use anything else, and proviron will have your junk hard all day long.
i would think this is aiming more to keep your natural testotorone levels up during the cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by zuke
i've used letro and adex and so far, i like letro better. i'm 5 weeks into my cutter of test enan, tren enan, and var. don't have any water retention so far. the letro helps i'm sure, but i think it's more about your diet and cardio. i took .5mgED of adex and 20mgED nolva during my last cycle and i still bloated like crazy. in retrospect, my diet wasn't as clean and i didn't do much cardio. i'm currently taking 1.25mg of letro 3 times a week. not much, so i think the diet and cardio are what's doing the trick.
I recently switched from letro to proviron, I really like the proviron, letro gave me libido issues and I feel it was hurting my gains a little bit.
alot of people seem to have libido promblems with Letro....Anyone experinced them with Ardex..?
i haven't had any libido problems with letro or adex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuttup
armidex is too expensive here is it still good too go with 25 mg proviron and 10 mg nolvadex threw the whole cycle ?
get liquid adex. it's cheap. or get letro. i like letro better than adex.
I may take your advice...so does AR sale Liquidex?Quote:
Originally Posted by wired-up
Letro killed my sex drive, gonna try adex next cycle.
I am prone to gyno so I am taking 1mg ED. Some people may think that is a lot, but not worth the price of bitch tits! Anyway I have no water retention at all and I'm taking 750mg Test E wk.
Guys.... Which Was Better Towards Water Retention And Gyno??????????
ITS OBVIOUS MOST OF YOU HAVE YOUR PICKS OVER THE OTHE BUT, ARE YOU DECIDING FROM TRYING BOTH OR BECAUSE OF WORD OF MOUTH, PRICES,..ETC.
letro keeps the water off better than adex for me. mine's by experience.
cool,.and no libido promblems from what you said!Quote:
Originally Posted by wired-up
nope. no problems at all! just ask my wife! :0happyhum
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by wired-up
come to think of it, the only thing that has ever given me libido problems was Hawthorne Berry. but that's to be expected since almost all beta blockers will reduce your sex drive.
I think Letro has one over this board,..with the exception of the majority have a decrease in libido. Its still a hard choice though...adex or letro!
try em both and see what you like better.