starting Test and Deca while on Clen???

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 05:57 PM

Can someone that has been on Clen for a week and a half jump into a test E Deca cycle while they are still on Clen?

**Dave321** · 04-23-2005, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Buff_Daddy

Can someone that has been on Clen for a week and a half jump into a test E Deca cycle while they are still on Clen?

save the clen for your PCT... you plan on doing PCT, right?

**wolfyEVH** · 04-23-2005, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

save the clen for your PCT... you plan on doing PCT, right?

agree......why take clen with 2 of the best bulking drugs there are??? save it for PCT

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Justin Sane]save the clen for your PCT... you plan on doing PCT, right?[/QUOTE

yes i def will be doing pct. do you think i should just stop the clen now and save it? im 5'10 200lbs around 15% BF.

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:22 PM

2 more questions if you dont mind....

1. i was told in another forum that you can mix the deca and test e into one shoot. does anyone else agree? I just want to be sure before i mix them.

2. is it ok to follow the cutting sticky while on the test e and deca?

**wolfyEVH** · 04-23-2005, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Buff_Daddy

2 more questions if you dont mind....

1. i was told in another forum that you can mix the deca and test e into one shoot. does anyone else agree? I just want to be sure before i mix them.

2. is it ok to follow the cutting sticky while on the test e and deca?

1. yes its ok

2. why??? if you're not looking to put on lots of mass, then i wouldnt be doing deca in the first place.

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by wolfyEVH

1. yes its ok

2. why??? if you're not looking to put on lots of mass, then i wouldnt be doing deca in the first place.

i do want to put on mass but i also want to try to keep my fat down to a minimum while im on....im already around 15% - 17%

**FrkyBgStok** · 04-23-2005, 06:28 PM

why not...many people have run deca while cutting and have been very succesful. i personally would not do it, but there is no HUGE reason not to.

**wolfyEVH** · 04-23-2005, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

why not...many people have run deca while cutting and have been very succesful. i personally would not do it, but there is no HUGE reason not to.

"i personally would not do it" lol...well there you go......he wants mass, but doesnt want to go up in bodyfat.....test/deca combo won't be the most ideal stack he's looking for.......test or test with a drug other than deca (eq, var)would be better for him, that is if he has a good diet to go along with it

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:34 PM

thats all can get my hands on at the moment - unfortunatley

**FrkyBgStok** · 04-23-2005, 06:34 PM

i agree that there are better combos out there but i have seen people drop bodyfat drastically while on deca and maintaining a proper diet. i would not do it because i would like the mass, but like i said it can be done even without clen .

**Dave321** · 04-23-2005, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Buff_Daddy

i do want to put on mass but i also want to try to keep my fat down to a minimum while im on....im already around 15% - 17%

IMO I would lean up before starting the Deca . In order to get the full effect of Deca, you want to make sure you are eating sufficient calories/day. It's much better to correct your diet, when you reach desired bf , start the deca cycle.... you can then eat like a horse!

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

IMO I would lean up before starting the Deca. In order to get the full effect of Deca, you want to make sure you are eating sufficient calories/day. It's much better to correct your diet, when you reach desired bf , start the deca cycle.... you can then eat like a horse!

thats why i am running clen at the moment....i came down to around 15% from 19% but im getting anxious to start the cycle.....not sure what i should do.

**JollyGiant** · 04-23-2005, 06:41 PM

Couldn't he keep the clen in there to limit the bodyfat he gains?

**Dave321** · 04-23-2005, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Buff_Daddy

thats why i am running clen at the moment....i came down to around 15% from 19% but im getting anxious to start the cycle.....not sure what i should do.

patients.... AS is simply an aid to growth and development.... you'd be surprised what a clean diet can do for you...

**FrkyBgStok** · 04-23-2005, 06:44 PM

why are you in such a hurry?

**Dave321** · 04-23-2005, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by FrkyBgStok

why are you in such a hurry?

good point... when's the competition????

**SHRED** · 04-23-2005, 06:52 PM

most likely the end of next year......i dont know i guess i may be jumping the gun a little. i guess i will stick with the clen only for the next few weeks....im running hookers suggestion......6 wks @ 100-120mcg per day and adding benadryl for week 3.

i guess i was just anxious to get some mass on me.....i will try to get down to around 10% and then start the cycle.