How Long of Off CYCLE???

[Cuttup]

HWhats the suggested time off cycle,..does time on = Time off. Ive been off for close to 4 weeks...Clomid had kicked in,..my balls are getting back to normal size,.and libido is trying to come up slowly.....Im ready to start up again though,..how long before i start my new cycle..thanks

[symatech]

most will tell you time on = time off but I happen to think that time on = 2x off. nobody is going to agree with me though

[Cuttup]

most will tell you time on = time off but I happen to think that time on = 2x off. nobody is going to agree with me though

I do....

[Juddman]

most will tell you time on = time off but I happen to think that time on = 2x off. nobody is going to agree with me though

I agree with you...but I can see how some won't. I don't care if I'm back to normal yet, I would rather give my body a chance to STAY normal for a while before hitting another cycle.

[JoeySpyda]

I agree with that but boy is it hard.

[bigger]

think of your own test poduction, dont what a test of a old fart

10 weeks on 10 weeks of after you pct but what do i know

peace

[wolfyEVH]

HWhats the suggested time off cycle,..does time on = Time off. Ive been off for close to 4 weeks...Clomid had kicked in,..my balls are getting back to normal size,.and libido is trying to come up slowly.....Im ready to start up again though,..how long before i start my new cycle..thanks

someone who's been here as long as you and has as many posts as you, i would think you'd already know this type of answer. of course you just got off a cycle and are eager to get back going, but follow the rule....give your body some time off

[Cuttup]

someone who's been here as long as you and has as many posts as you, i would think you'd already know this type of answer. of course you just got off a cycle and are eager to get back going, but follow the rule....give your body some time off

i spent the majority of my time here gathering info...to prepare for my first cycle...i KNow quite about about AS,.thanks to this website..but this is also my first time off a cycle as it was my first time on a cycle,.ive always known time off = time on but,..id like to know how many people actualy live by that rule.
For the record,..just beacause a person has plenty post.....doesnt mean they know it all.

[cut260]

Time on is NOT time off in any way shape or form. The ONLY way to properly go off cycle is to understand the half life of the ester and plan it out so that the amount is at or near 0 when you plan to go off. Here is a list of half times, so please pay attention to this when planning your cycles and for going off cycle. I will puke if I hear another idiot say time on is time off. Those morons have been getting people hurt, and encouraging gyno for far too long and someone needs to take away their keyboard and get them to the gym instead of being a keyboard bodybuilder.

Be a smart bodybuilder otherwise you are just another meathead like idiots who say time on is time off.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours



Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day


*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.


Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days



Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours


A practical example is if one was to inject 100mg of testosterone propionate and allow blood levels to peak. In 4.5 days time (half-life duration from the above tables) and providing no other injections had taken place, the level would be reduced to 50mg. Again, a further 4.5 days down the line and levels would have dropped to 25mg, and the value keeps halving every 4.5 days.

[JoeySpyda]

I am very confused someone want to explain this to me? I thought time on = time off means if your running say test enanthate for ten weeks you should wait at least 10 weeks before starting another cycle? Or should you wait 10 weeks after PCT?

[taiboxa]

most will tell you time on = time off but I happen to think that time on = 2x off. nobody is going to agree with me though

i fully agree...
but that reallllly sux for say a 20+week cycle!

[bigger]

WTF!!!!!
I dont get this at all. this is very confusing?!?
which is the right way and the wrong?

so say if your on a 10 week cycle whit 600mg enerthane/week. so after those 10 weeks you cut you dose in half every 10.5 days?? man that would be ****ing expencive. am I right bros?

but in the end it probably will bennifit your body i think.

i gaind 43kilos on my first cykle but pritty fast lost 30 kg after that. I got something that seams to be clomid but wasnt. so my pct suckt. but he (cut260) seems to no his **** just by loking at his pic..

so long bros

[taiboxa]

WTF!!!!!
I dont get this at all. this is very confusing?!?
which is the right way and the wrong?

so say if your on a 10 week cycle whit 600mg enerthane/week. so after those 10 weeks you cut you dose in half every 10.5 days?? man that would be ****ing expencive. am I right bros?

but in the end it probably will bennifit your body i think.

i gaind 43kilos on my first cykle but pritty fast lost 30 kg after that. I got something that seams to be clomid but wasnt. so my pct suckt. but he (cut260) seems to no his **** just by loking at his pic..

so long bros

disregard what cut260 said he was talking about lineing up PCT due to half life of the compounds.
just go w/ for every week u cycle is 2 weeks u gonna go natty. ITS JUST SAFER that way
AND DONT CUT DOSE IN HALF at end of 10 weeks u stop
ENTH takes 2 weeks to get out system so 2 weeks after last injection you start ur pct.

[bigger]

thx bro that was what i thaugt. and tren and eq shuld I stop whit tren 2 or 3 weeks before my last test E shot?

[Cuttup]

very informative,..ill Have to PM you.

Time on is NOT time off in any way shape or form. The ONLY way to properly go off cycle is to understand the half life of the ester and plan it out so that the amount is at or near 0 when you plan to go off. Here is a list of half times, so please pay attention to this when planning your cycles and for going off cycle. I will puke if I hear another idiot say time on is time off. Those morons have been getting people hurt, and encouraging gyno for far too long and someone needs to take away their keyboard and get them to the gym instead of being a keyboard bodybuilder.

Be a smart bodybuilder otherwise you are just another meathead like idiots who say time on is time off.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours



Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day


*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.


Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days



Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours


A practical example is if one was to inject 100mg of testosterone propionate and allow blood levels to peak. In 4.5 days time (half-life duration from the above tables) and providing no other injections had taken place, the level would be reduced to 50mg. Again, a further 4.5 days down the line and levels would have dropped to 25mg, and the value keeps halving every 4.5 days.

[GrimmReaper]

really the safest way to go about it is to have a doc check your levels.....thats the only sure way to know.

[sevenmann]

I tend to disagree, of course , the conservative and perhaps smart thing to do would be to take that time off, however, a couple weeks of HCG and you'll have those levels back to normal and then good to go again!!

[Cuttup]

I tend to disagree, of course , the conservative and perhaps smart thing to do would be to take that time off, however, a couple weeks of HCG and you'll have those levels back to normal and then good to go again!!

GOOD POINT.....WHAT ABOUT THINGS LIKE GYNO?

[niXon)(]

GOOD POINT.....WHAT ABOUT THINGS LIKE GYNO?

What about it? I don't understand your question

[19inchpythons]

IMO don't rely on roids so much that you use them all the time...I say work out a few years, hit a sticking point,,,then use

[wolfyEVH]

this is a given bro.....your post is when to start your PCT, not the time on = time off. AFTER the PCT, then you should stay off gear for at least the amount of time you've been on. this is why people will stop deca a week or 2 shorter than the test, then 2 weeks after the test start the clomid, according to the half life chart you posted.

Time on is NOT time off in any way shape or form. The ONLY way to properly go off cycle is to understand the half life of the ester and plan it out so that the amount is at or near 0 when you plan to go off. Here is a list of half times, so please pay attention to this when planning your cycles and for going off cycle. I will puke if I hear another idiot say time on is time off. Those morons have been getting people hurt, and encouraging gyno for far too long and someone needs to take away their keyboard and get them to the gym instead of being a keyboard bodybuilder.

Be a smart bodybuilder otherwise you are just another meathead like idiots who say time on is time off.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours



Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day


*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.


Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days



Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours


A practical example is if one was to inject 100mg of testosterone propionate and allow blood levels to peak. In 4.5 days time (half-life duration from the above tables) and providing no other injections had taken place, the level would be reduced to 50mg. Again, a further 4.5 days down the line and levels would have dropped to 25mg, and the value keeps halving every 4.5 days.

[Cuttup]

What about it? I don't understand your question

yes, the HCG is helping your nuts from loosing their ability to produce test and shrinking but starting another cycle to quick (with HCG or not ) will increase gyno like a mofo!

[niXon)(]

yes, the HCG is helping your nuts from loosing their ability to produce test and shrinking but starting another cycle to quick (with HCG or not ) will increase gyno like a mofo!

Yeah it will increase gyno if you are prone or already have gyno, if not then you won't increase "your gyno" because you don't have any

[Cuttup]

Yeah it will increase gyno if you are prone or already have gyno, if not then you won't increase "your gyno" because you don't have any

there are guys out here that dont know if they are prone to it or not,..whats they find out they are,.its too late