Nolva Sux!

[DDDNTZ]

I've been on test 500, deca 300/wk for 10 weeks now. I just started noticing signs of gyno begining wk. 9, so I started Nolva 20mg/day. After about a week, I lost about 5 lbs. of water! It may not sound like a lot, but I;m about 210, 8% bf. and the pump I lost from the water makes me feel totally smaller. I guess I'm one of those guys that doesn't care if my face gets puffy or gain a lot of water while on cycle, I just love the pump from the water and the immediate gains. Anyway, I'm pissed about the losses. Anyone else ever feel this way?

[taiboxa]

good water weight is gay
and now you should look harder and leaner
be proud.

[punchrf]

i get pissed because i bloat way more than 5 pounds. bloat is definetely not my friend.

[symatech]

I guess you'd rather be bigger with fake weight and have titties than have quality weight and not look like a woman

nolva rocks, without nolva I wouldn't use steroids.

[taiboxa]

I guess you'd rather be bigger with fake weight and have titties than have quality weight and not look like a woman

nolva rocks, without nolva I wouldn't use steroids.

AMEN!

[DDDNTZ]

I suppose u have to weigh the good w/ the bad. It did help w/ the gyno. Also, I love the water! This is only my 2nd cycle though, maybe I'll change my mind later.

[symatech]

trust me it's a good thing. 3 grand for gyno surgery. as opposed to a few months to put on the amount of muscle that your weight dropped from water. Don't stop using the nolva, gyno is much worse than loosing water.

[No One Knows]

Nolva Sux!

So do tits...

[DDDNTZ]

I agree w/ u symatech, but I guess I'm TOTALLY alone on the water huh? Like I said, it's only my 2nd cycle, and that pump felt **** good!

[symatech]

yeah I think you stand alone on the water thing. but hey to each his own I suppose.

[DDDNTZ]

word

[No One Knows]

What the hell are you talking about?

Nolva doesn't take away from your pumps.

[DDDNTZ]

I guess that's what I'm asking, if anyine else experienced this. I'm telling u it made a HUGE difference.

[taiboxa]

water weight makes me feel like shyt
test makes me pump hard

[punchrf]

i use to like the water when i was first starting out with cycles because i looked bigger but as the bigger i got i just wanted to be vascular and big. not bloated and a little bigger.

[No One Knows]

Well I can tell you this..

I've been taking 10mg of nolva ed and still getting incredible pumps. The only part that sucks is trying to take my shirt off when Im finished...

[DDDNTZ]

Thanx for identifying w/ me punchrf. Just wondered if anyone else liked the water, or experienced a lackluster pump after starting Nolva.

[Sp!ke]

I don't think that your "problem" is the fault of Nolva. Maybe a side effect or rebond with your actual cycle, but with 20 mg / day, no risk, even with 40 Mg or 60 Mg

I don't do a cycle without 25 Mg Proviron and 20 Mg Nolvadex / day

[flabbywussy]

Well I can tell you this..

I've been taking 10mg of nolva ed and still getting incredible pumps. The only part that sucks is trying to take my shirt off when Im finished...

ummm because 10mg nolva ain't squat...well, at least for me it ain't. 10 doesn't work for me i have to use 20-25mg/day.

i also run high doses

[No One Knows]

10mg of nolva is sufficient in controlling gyno for me. When gyno symptoms arose, and I was taking 80mg of nolva I was still getting great pumps.

Nolva has never had an adverse affect on pumps for me, only gyno.

[flabbywussy]

10mg of nolva is sufficient in controlling gyno for me. When gyno symptoms arose, and I was taking 80mg of nolva I was still getting great pumps.

Nolva has never had an adverse affect on pumps for me, only gyno.

maybe it's sufficient for you @10mg because you are just taking pro hormones

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=166844

[No One Knows]

I've run "real" cycles with 10mg. of nolva throughout. Works fine.

Any please don't try to sound all high and mighty because I'm using prohormones for 4 weeks. (Which I acquired for free)

Give me a f*cking break.

"I have to use more than 20mg of nolvadex because I run hardcore high doses and you run fake PH's.."

LOL bro, thanks for the laugh..

[flabbywussy]

I've run "real" cycles with 10mg. of nolva throughout. Works fine.

Any please don't try to sound all high and mighty because I'm using prohormones for 4 weeks. (Which I acquired for free)

Give me a f*cking break.

"I have to use more than 20mg of nolvadex because I run hardcore high doses and you run fake PH's.."

LOL bro, thanks for the laugh..

your name should say "NO ONE KNOWS...(not even me)

[flabbywussy]

I've run "real" cycles with 10mg. of nolva throughout. Works fine.

Any please don't try to sound all high and mighty because I'm using prohormones for 4 weeks. (Which I acquired for free)

Give me a f*cking break.

"I have to use more than 20mg of nolvadex because I run hardcore high doses and you run fake PH's.."

LOL bro, thanks for the laugh..

are you embarrased for taking pro hormones?? "which i acquired for free"

and i'm not trying to sound all high and mighty bro that's obviously all in your head or else you wouldn't have said" woo hoo wich i got for free!!"

maybe you are not gyno prone ...ever think of that smarty

[Ntpadude]

I've been on test 500, deca 300/wk for 10 weeks now. I just started noticing signs of gyno begining wk. 9, so I started Nolva 20mg/day. After about a week, I lost about 5 lbs. of water! It may not sound like a lot, but I;m about 210, 8% bf. and the pump I lost from the water makes me feel totally smaller. I guess I'm one of those guys that doesn't care if my face gets puffy or gain a lot of water while on cycle, I just love the pump from the water and the immediate gains. Anyway, I'm pissed about the losses. Anyone else ever feel this way?

Well then you really werent making the gains you thought you were... I dont like using nolva but its a HAVE TO situation when nipples get sensative on you. All the other effective anti-e's will also rob you of the water weight just the same so what can you do? Grow tits??? Not only this but the nolva will somewhat help the sex drive because if the estrogen is getting the nipples sensative, its also causing excess shrinkage of the balls and other bad things down in your main man hood that you dont need it to do.

[CrispyHaole]

fake gains seem to be ruling nowadays....how aboiut fake pussy? that good too?

[M@dm@n 9]

i have a skinny body type and dbol makes me bloat like you are saying, but not in my face just in my arms and sh!t, i love that and you arent the only one. but like everyone is saying, over time im sure we will want to avoid the bloating. Believe this or not i started getting gyno and the only thing i could get ahold of was 6oxo and it stopped it i dont know how but it worked, i believe in that stuff now