test prop

[gobig99]

how long to see effects such as pumps and energy and whatnot?

i know it doesnt take long with prop but how long?

what about strength and some mass?

[needle]

I say 7 to 10 days with eod injections!

[stupidhippo]

for the massive strength gains im still waiting =) ... AND I'M ON 5th WEEK!!

[Deezuhl]

7 days and maybe 10 max to see strength gains. I am on my 18th day and it has kicked in hard.

[Thegr8One]

7 days and maybe 10 max to see strength gains. I am on my 18th day and it has kicked in hard.

hows those tren sweats coming?
and yeah right around 10 days :cclove-sm

[Sp!ke]

for the massive strength gains im still waiting =) ... AND I'M ON 5th WEEK!!

there is a problem bro lol

[palumbo]

i would check my source if after 5 weeks nothing is happening

[gobig99]

tren?

[stupidhippo]

its legit.. my problem is too small dosage i think (100 mg EOD) gonna up it as soon as i get more which is 2moro I hope... Its my first cycle but I m a big guy.... Seen some strength gains but not nearly what I expected..

[Deezuhl]

yeah well man up and shoot it everday also and you may see better gains with more stable blood levels. Aim for 100mg ED and then see what happens. 350mg EW not stacked with anything isnt going to give you what you are looking for either. I would have done Test E 500 ew before prop @ 100mg eod. just my 2cc's

[stupidhippo]

actually pleased with everything else except the strength gains... bench up only 10 lbs ...

[stupidhippo]

I have it stacked with deca 300 a week which i know is a little too much compared to the prop but I'm doubling my prop doasge hopefully 2moro. Then : 100 mg ED PROP and 500mg a week DECA. Have I lost a lot since first 4 weeks went underdosed?? Didnt really think that a first timer would need so much but I am 270 pound guy so should've thought about that too I guess... 700 mg prop and 500 deca just seems like a hefty first cycle

[Nicky B]

I would have to say from my experiances test prop is in full affect in a about 10-14 days.

[stupidhippo]

What does that full effect mean btw? You mean the pumps and slight strength increase and general overall good feeling (I got those in a week or sumin but still waiting for those ridiculous strength gains I hear people talking about)?

[j martini]

Major strength increases can sometimes be caused by water retention if you are not the sort to retain much water strength increases will be less.
What anti e are you using.

[stupidhippo]

none

[j martini]

You should really be running an anti e to prevent gyno especially if you increse doseage.

[stupidhippo]

I have thought of that... you are absolutely right, it would suck to encounter problems with gyno. Is there any warning signs that you can recognize BTW? I read from here that anti-e's might hinder with gains a little bit so thats y decided not to use em..

[j martini]

Common signs are puffiness around nipple are nipples that are tender to touch.
Some people claim that anti e's hinder gains due to less circulating estrogen the combination of estrogen and testosterone creates a very anabolic environment.
But the slight improvement in gains is not worth gyno IMO which will require surgery to get rid off.

[stupidhippo]

that is true.. thx 4 the info.. appreiciate it..!

[NickLockSet]

im on my 8th day of 100/ml eod injections i havent seen anyhting yet hoping to see something soon prob around 10-12 days... im doin 400mg a week so i shud be fine