cycle question

**DIRTYDAWG10** · 04-29-2005, 10:28 AM

I'm new to the steroid scene and looking to start my first cycle. I'm looking to stack deca with d-ball. I've read about nolvadex , is it necessary to take this and is there anything else I should know. thanks

**stocky121** · 04-29-2005, 10:30 AM

don't do a deca d/boll cycle for your first do a
test eth or cyp 500mg ew for 12 week's that will be a better cycle

**Booz** · 04-29-2005, 10:32 AM

if you did sum research you would know that a dbol n deca cycle is not a good 1,how old n wat r your stats should b the 1st question mate?

**jwillfcsl** · 04-29-2005, 10:35 AM

http://www.steroid.com/NOLVADEX/phtml , this should give you some basic info on nolvadex , if you have read about it, you should know what it does, with the d-bol, there is a possibility for gyno, so nolvadex might be a good idea + there is something else you should know, just running deca without test leaves a good possibility that you will shut down, at least your natural test will shut down, that is why test is usually the cornerstone of any good cycle.

**DIRTYDAWG10** · 04-29-2005, 10:46 AM

the research i have done states that beginners should not take a test

**stocky121** · 04-29-2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by DIRTYDAWG10

the research i have done states that beginners should not take a test

and where did you research this from

**Scrub** · 04-29-2005, 10:50 AM

If you take deca without test you run a high chance that your d*ck wont work. In addition dbol shouldn't be taken for more than 4 weeks because it is hard on your liver. What were the doses and the length of time you were planning on running.

**Booz** · 04-29-2005, 10:51 AM

bullsh*t out of date cr*p!

**DIRTYDAWG10** · 04-29-2005, 10:53 AM

Despite this we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. This was stated on this website but i dont i dont know thats why im asking y'all. what do you suggest?

**Scrub** · 04-29-2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by booz

bullsh*t out of date cr*p!

Whats out of date cr*p?

**stocky121** · 04-29-2005, 10:55 AM

like booz said out ov date crap

**BigJames** · 04-29-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by DIRTYDAWG10

Despite this we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. This was stated on this website but i dont i dont know thats why im asking y'all. what do you suggest?

I have seen that referenced twice in the last few days, but I assure you that it is out of date. The overall recommendation of EVERYONE on this board is to use Test as the base of EVERY cycle and for a first cycle use Test by itself. The recommended compounds would be Test Cyp or Test Enan.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight=themudman

The above link is to a thread with cycle recommendations for first and second cycles...

**Booz** · 04-29-2005, 10:58 AM

a 1st time user would best b suited to a test only cycle,if you use dbol deca only you run a very high chance of losing the ability to keep an erection due to them stoppin your natural production of test.that is why people take test as a base to most cycles.
500mg test e 10-12 wks
pct 14 days after last shot,good simple solid cycle for a begginer.
do what you want to do mate but listen to people on this board,most of the advice you will get will b the same,obviously apart from the twa*s that dont have a clue.
good luck!