Second Cycle

[hardgainer23]

What do you think about this for my second cycle?
205lbs. 5'10 body fat 18%

75 mg EOD tren 80 days
75 mg EOD winn 40 days
200 mg or 400 mg eq 65 days
cutting with clen and T3

Any suggestions or comments on whether this is good cutting cycle for summer?

[wolfyEVH]

1. I think you should get to 15% or less bodyfat before getting on gear......
2. I see no testosterone in there.......please explain
3. do you know how to properly run clen /t3?

[longhorn814]

where's the test at? What was your first cycle? Eq should also be run at 12 weeks minimum.

[hardgainer23]

I forgot to mention 3/4 c of test enanthate to keep up my sex life

[hardgainer23]

I didnt want too much test because of water weight and Im also going on a strict diet as well to bring down body fat. It could be 15 % now I just made a rough estimate.

[hardgainer23]

My first cycle was sust 250 bi-weekly and deca 300 for 10weeks. I was 193 about 22% body fat I got to 210 and am now holding at 205 and15-18% bf. Didnt diet very much since I was bulking, just lots of protein. I have done some research on clen and T3 and have some friends giving me advice but Im always up for getting as much feedback as possible. I have liquid kind. I wonder how affective it is compared to the pills.

[longhorn814]

if your concerned about water weight, use prop. It has less water retention and you can always take nolva or arimidex for bloat too

[hardgainer23]

Does prop really make that much difference because I have already got enanthate

[hardgainer23]

I really want to get cut so what do you think is a better cycle? I do want to use winn and tren but other than that I am up for sugg.

[longhorn814]

for me it doesnt really matter, i dont bloat much from test e while others bloat like crazy, that is why a lot of people use prop for cutting.

[hardgainer23]

I dont bloat a lot either but i would like to be extreme for the summer

[longhorn814]

then use some type of ancillary to keep bloat down. I'll be starting test e and tren in about month too.