New to this stuff

**sprt8400** · 05-13-2005, 10:59 AM

Guys I have been working out for about 4 years now and am in pretty good shape. Problem is I used to be overweight a year ago 5'9", 30% body fat, 212lbs. Went on diet, cardio and am now 17% body fat and 178lbs. The problem is I want to get down to about 10% body fat and cant seem to do it. What can I take to help me reach my goal??? I heard Winny would do this but is there any thing cheaper that would do the same without the water gain? Please advise...

**irepdaronx** · 05-13-2005, 11:01 AM

winny shouldnt have any water gain but go 2 the link at the top of this page for anabolic reseach. check out clen u can get it there cheap from a trusted source and the stuff works

**BIGPAPAPUMP77** · 05-13-2005, 11:20 AM

dude whats up with the color...... i think your definitly on the right track to drop that much weight/bf in a year thats good....diet and consistancy is the key... what is your cycle history? stats?

**sprt8400** · 05-13-2005, 11:27 AM

I don't have a cycle history... Never did anything but want to try.. Thanks

**Gills** · 05-13-2005, 11:33 AM

You could give DNP a shot, it will cause water retention, but that will be gone about 3-4 days after your last dose. No need to resort to juice if you just want to drop some weight.

**musclestack** · 05-13-2005, 04:02 PM

You could also try the Clen T3 stack. It's one of the best fat-burning stacks out there. Only problem, when T3 (Cytomel ) is run without any AAS, it can burn muscle tissue while on. I wouldn't go on this stack for more than 6-8 weeks though. Clen loses its fat-burning effects after about week 6 and T3 raises your metabolism so high that it's not necessarily great for your heart.

**phalanx** · 05-13-2005, 04:07 PM

go the the gym and run ur ass off and take products like lipo 6 u dont need as to lose weight unless its at the end of a cycle and u wanna cut a little

**soo2bhuge** · 05-13-2005, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Gills

You could give DNP a shot, it will cause water retention, but that will be gone about 3-4 days after your last dose. No need to resort to juice if you just want to drop some weight.

are you serious? u want him to do DNP and he hasn't even done clen ?! i don't think that's something a newbie or even a vet should mess around with. just my personal opinion, but definitely not something for a newbie.