urgent help with sust250

[little men]

i had my first shot last week and have had no strength gain and am eating like a madman taking in 350g of protein, 150g carbs and 50 fat per day,

I saw pics of sust which resemble mine and have been classed as an excellent fake, im hoping their not fake but in the meantime what should i do as im due to shoot tommorow??

do i shoot and wait for it to kick in or what??

[Geeezer]

You have only done one shot?
you neeed to do sus EOD like 200 EOD
one week one shot sound like you should not even be one a cycle
nows about nova ,L-Dex?
you have your PCT on hand?

[Deezuhl]

i had my first shot last week and have had no strength gain and am eating like a madman taking in 350g of protein, 150g carbs and 50 fat per day,

I saw pics of sust which resemble mine and have been classed as an excellent fake, im hoping their not fake but in the meantime what should i do as im due to shoot tommorow??

do i shoot and wait for it to kick in or what??

1 shot last week and one tomorrow?? You should be shooting sus every day or every other day #1. next are you joking about not seeing results in 1 week?? if so you may one to use the search button and start doing some research you should have done months ago.

[little men]

sorry i should have been more clear

taking 15mg dbol ed 10mg in morning and 5 mg in afternoon
sus250 1cc each 5 days
have nolva on hand in case of gyno and for pct, have 120ml of it at 20mcg/1ml


i shot on thursday night and am doing my next shot tommorow morning being tuesday,
my concern was that i think it might be a fake due to the pics i saw
should i still shoot it to see if it is legit

is it too early at this stage to have an increase in strength?

FATMIKE you missunderstood me im well aware i wont be noticing any gains in muscle for at least 3-4 weeks my question was is it to early for my strength gains to be noticed?

[RA]

sorry i should have been more clear

taking 15mg dbol ed 10mg in morning and 5 mg in afternoon
sus250 1cc each 5 days
have nolva on hand in case of gyno and for pct, have 120ml of it at 20mcg/1ml


i shot on thursday night and am doing my next shot tommorow morning being tuesday,
my concern was that i think it might be a fake due to the pics i saw
should i still shoot it to see if it is legit

is it too early at this stage to have an increase in strength?

FATMIKE you missunderstood me im well aware i wont be noticing any gains in muscle for at least 3-4 weeks my question was is it to early for my strength gains to be noticed?

Yes, its too early.

[Deezuhl]

youll notice strength gain from the dbol before the sus even at the low dose you are taking. IMO you are shooting the sus wrong. needs to be shot daily or eod to keep blood levels stable and youll see better gains and less sides.

[Deezuhl]

Here is some more convincing info. Written by basskiller on iron for life forums. you are shooting less frequent than mon, wed, fri so imagine...



As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.

Here is the normal 3 times a week chart




*Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

[mickinadders]

it will take 4 to 5 weeks before you notice the sus doing its job and then you,ll see ya strength go up

[solid-d]

I got a question here now... can you split a 1ml amp of sust in half and the othre half still be good the next day? do you preload the 2nd half into the needle and storeit for a day???? How is it done... Cause I was planning on taking 250mg EOD

[G-Force]

I got a question here now... can you split a 1ml amp of sust in half and the othre half still be good the next day? do you preload the 2nd half into the needle and storeit for a day???? How is it done... Cause I was planning on taking 250mg EOD

thats what i did - pre loaded it and used it again the next day

[Swifto]

Post a pic of your Sus 250 in the pictures section and see if anyone has seen it before?

Also bump your Dbol to 30mg/ED for weeks 1-4

You still need to be researching IMO if you dont know this and dont know you should shoot Sus ED/EOD...

[Random]

starting week 2 of sust as well, is 500mg enough, im shootin EOD...or should i get more and up the dose around week 5 -6?

[Swifto]

starting week 2 of sust as well, is 500mg enough, im shootin EOD...or should i get more and up the dose around week 5 -6?

Keep the dosage constant through out the duration of the cycle

[The Baron]

That is one of the hassles of using sust... the 250mg amps. Yeah, for 125mg EOD you can draw up into two syringes... get them even. Pull back on the plunger to purge the juice out of the drawing pins, remove and replace with your shooting pins, leaving the caps on. Prep your site and shoot one of them. Save the other in a clean place where it won't be disturbed and you can shoot it day after tomorrow.

IMHO you are always better off with cyp or E. You can jumpstart if you like, by running prop also, for the first 3-4 weeks, tapering off as the long estered test builds up.

[Aboot]

Here is some more convincing info. Written by basskiller on iron for life forums. you are shooting less frequent than mon, wed, fri so imagine...



As you can see by the numbers, the quickest way to get the sust levels in your blood stream at a constant maximum level is to shoot ed.
By the middle of week 1, your there, except for a few milligrams.


On a 3cc case, each hash mark equals 25mgs of sust
So to shoot
200mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 3/4 of a ml
150mgs would be 8 hash marks or a little over 1/2 of a ml
100mgs would be 4 hash marks or a little under 1/2 of a ml
basskiller

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619


Also you can see by the numbers...
Your shooting 700mgs a week, with the exception of the 1st week,
That your only really doing 619mgs.

Here is the normal 3 times a week chart




*Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just Here is Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

Great post.

[GREENMACHINE]

Don't know if this has been pointed out but your calories are way too low.

[Johnny G]

i had my first shot last week and have had no strength gain and am eating like a madman taking in 350g of protein, 150g carbs and 50 fat per day,

I saw pics of sust which resemble mine and have been classed as an excellent fake, im hoping their not fake but in the meantime what should i do as im due to shoot tommorow??

do i shoot and wait for it to kick in or what??

In order to answer your question, you will have to give alittle more information. As to address if you have fake sust or not, post a pic, give a lot number, 207501 if I am not mistaken are fakes. I had them. What are your stats? How long is this cycle? Etc...