Who cycles all year around?

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 12:42 PM

Thinking about going all year long, I have 10wks left for the end of the six months that I had planned on. Thought about taking 100mg of Test during my pct along with liquidex, nolva, and clomid. Then starting back up after a month of pct. Is there anything wrong with this, could some users who cycle all year around help me out? The reason why I was thinking about starting another cycle was I had a friend who did this and gained a $hit ton of muscle, back to back cycle. For the next cycle I was planning this:

1-24 Test Cypionate 750mg wk
1-23 EQ 600mg wk
6-17 Deca 600mg wk

**Benches505** · 06-02-2005, 12:53 PM

There are many people that stay on for a year but it's not recommended. What are your goals? wanting to go pro? then it might be worth it. Risks vs rewards.

Also, if you take 100mg test during PCT you actually have no PCT at all since your natural test will stay shut down from that test dosage.

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 01:07 PM

Thats not completly true, a good friend of mine has been taking 100mg of test enanthate and 100mg deca and he hasn't been shut down. He was proscribed by his doctor, those are supposed to be safe levels. Anyway if my blood work comes back normal her we go again, wanted to get bigger

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-02-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Moosepellet

Thats not completly true, a good friend of mine has been taking 100mg of test enanthate and 100mg deca and he hasn't been shut down. He was proscribed by his doctor, those are supposed to be safe levels. Anyway if my blood work comes back normal her we go again, wanted to get bigger

i stayed on for almost a year. it is do able, but pct is a bitch. question, how is your friend doing pct while still taking test and deca ?is he taking clomid with them?maybe i misunderstood

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 01:23 PM

He doesn't have to take clomid, his doctor said that as long as he doesn't go over 100mg he will be okay. I guess this falls into the natural test levels

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-02-2005, 01:35 PM

with hormone replacement it is different. those people have a lack of test. most stay on some form of test for good. it is different than staying on if you don't have a problem, eventualy you have to come off. and how can one tell if you are shut down if you are taking test. even if it is 100mg?is it posibbleto test natural test levels and synthetic test levels and tell that your hpta is allowing you to produce natural test? how do you know that your test level isn't being incresed by the synthetic test? how do you differentiate?chances are he is shut down, and doesn't feel it because he is taking test.

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 01:38 PM

He has been cycling for 15+yrs and has had the same doctor this whole time. Can't answer your question, thats just what his doctor tells him. Doctors usually know best. But I would like to get some feedback on my situation with a year long cycle!!!!

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 01:39 PM

Someone out there, who could shed some light on my question? BDTR where the hell are you? He usually one year around, maybe I will send him a PM

**Big Rig** · 06-02-2005, 01:57 PM

Year round....dag-on that sounds tempting!

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-02-2005, 02:00 PM

I'm on year round. What's your question (s), exactly?

***Doc.Sust*** · 06-02-2005, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

I'm on year round. What's your question (s), exactly?

i have a question, not trying to hijakc the post, but do you ever come off ?

**gooroo** · 06-02-2005, 02:19 PM

holy cow year round??? Sounds like Addicts to me, cant live in the real world.

**BE_STRONG** · 06-02-2005, 02:23 PM

DUDE, i hope you aint downing hooker, he is one of the most knowledgable guys around, you might want to edit, just to be safe

Originally Posted by gooroo

holy cow year round??? Sounds like Addicts to me, cant live in the real world.

**jaffry20** · 06-02-2005, 02:31 PM

Hooker, what's your PCT like after a yr of cycling? How long do to take time off for after that intense cycling? do you take a few weeks, months, or just a do a pct then start up again?

**gooroo** · 06-02-2005, 02:47 PM

be stong - I aint editing shit. If someone cant take what I write they need to counter act the estro.

**BE_STRONG** · 06-02-2005, 03:06 PM

thats up to you smart ass. you probably wont be around long.

Originally Posted by gooroo

be stong - I aint editing shit. If someone cant take what I write they need to counter act the estro.

**j martini** · 06-02-2005, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by jaffry20

Hooker, what's your PCT like after a yr of cycling? How long do to take time off for after that intense cycling? do you take a few weeks, months, or just a do a pct then start up again?

I think he means that he never cycles off, Probably just varys the doses, and compounds.

**jaffry20** · 06-02-2005, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by j martini

I think he means that he never cycles off, Probably just varys the doses, and compounds.

Damn, that's insane. I plan on doing that too when im older. that's why we die, our body's own natural test depletes and we die, hahaha, im gonna be the only 80yr old cycling and picking up the the 50yr old bitches, ahhhhhh yeah.

**Swifto** · 06-02-2005, 03:14 PM

You need to make your mind up wether you really do want to be on year round or 1 year+.

Althogh year long cycles mean increased muscle etc...The benifits do come with drawbacks. You may never recover and may need HRT for the rest of your life? It may mean serious long term health issues.

It's just a thought.

Good Luck.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-02-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

i have a question, not trying to hijakc the post, but do you ever come off ?

Yeah...month or 2 a year....all together....

**hardgainer1** · 06-02-2005, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by gooroo

be stong - I aint editing shit. If someone cant take what I write they need to counter act the estro.

You might want to hang around a little longer before you start sassin vets man

**jaffry20** · 06-02-2005, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

Yeah...month or 2 a year....all together....

But you dont just do this for no reason rite hooker. It definetly helps sport wise, and of course muscle/strength wise wich is definetly key ion your sport. What do you run during the On-Season?

**BigLittleTim** · 06-02-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by bigswiftos

You need to make your mind up wether you really do want to be on year round or 1 year+.

Althogh year long cycles mean increased muscle etc...The benifits do come with drawbacks. You may never recover and may need HRT for the rest of your life? It may mean serious long term health issues.

It's just a thought.

Good Luck.

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I've heard of guys who when they're "off" and "completely clean" it means they're still doing a few cc's of Deca every week to keep their "natural level" of Test. high, like guys who are on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) year 'round for certain medical conditions and low testosterone count.

Does this work? I mean, do a few cc's of, say, Test Cyp., every week, just help keep you in that extremely lucky 5% of the male population who would have had their natural levels of Test in the "high" zone? Or would they still not overcome the such-n-such hormonal protein synthesis axis (I kind'a gloss over the big words, sorry.) and you'd still just be supressing your natural production while wasting money?

**mark956101957** · 06-02-2005, 04:33 PM

twice now I have gone almost 6 months each time and at 46/47 is a bitch to get your own hpta going on its own.

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 05:41 PM

Explain exactly what you mean, mark956101957? I'm curious to hear your experiences with a a year long cycle?

**spound** · 06-02-2005, 06:12 PM

I would be more worried about heart/bloodpressure/liver/kidney etc. problems than I would be about my HPTA...seems like juice for that long would be bad on your heart, shit its bad on your heart anyways. Ma not kill you, but you cant deny the fact that roids are not good for you

**mark956101957** · 06-02-2005, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by spound

I would be more worried about heart/bloodpressure/liver/kidney etc. problems than I would be about my HPTA...seems like juice for that long would be bad on your heart, shit its bad on your heart anyways. Ma not kill you, but you cant deny the fact that roids are not good for you

You are correct that is more important than my own ability to make my own test on my own. After this cycle- end of August- I am going off for at least 5 months and will constantly take blood tests and monitor many things to make sure I have not screwed things up inside myself such as kidney, heart, liver and everything else my doctor will let me get tested through blood analysis that my HMO will pay for!

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-02-2005, 06:32 PM

I run test + 1 other compound *typically a DHT-derived steroid like Masteron or Primobolan for most of the year. I come off around Xmas (when I have a break between Club and All-Star play) and again for around a month in Spring (between the end of the season, and pre-season).

For PCT I run 500iu of HCG per day for the first 2-3 weeks, and 20mgs of Nolv + 1mg of Arimidex for the entire course of PCT (a month or 2 depending on how long I have while off).

I have all of my bloodwork, and the only time I had issues with anything at all was my cholesterol when I ran Letrozole and Winstrol in my cycle. I've always recovered. In fact, I have blood work from when I ran my first 2-3 cycles, and I've always recovered my HPTA....even when I was 19 and first started.....making me think people are full of it when they say you'll mess up your HPTA forever if you start before 21.

BG · 06-02-2005, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

I run test + 1 other compound *typically a DHT-derived steroid like Masteron or Primobolan for most of the year. I come off around Xmas (when I have a break between Club and All-Star play) and again for around a month in Spring (between the end of the season, and pre-season).

For PCT I run 500iu of HCG per day for the first 2-3 weeks, and 20mgs of Nolv + 1mg of Arimidex for the entire course of PCT (a month or 2 depending on how long I have while off).

I have all of my bloodwork, and the only time I had issues with anything at all was my cholesterol when I ran Letrozole and Winstrol in my cycle. I've always recovered. In fact, I have blood work from when I ran my first 2-3 cycles, and I've always recovered my HPTA....even when I was 19 and first started.....making me think people are full of it when they say you'll mess up your HPTA forever if you start before 21.

how many 18 year olds do pct though?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-02-2005, 07:05 PM

I did, man. I used Clomid as PCT 8 years ago, as well as HCG every 3rd week (1,500 iu) It was all in the Underground Steroid Handbook decades ago....we "modern users" like to take credit for inventing the wheel, here...but PCT has been around for decades....we have Duchaine to thank for basically everything we know....and if he was wrong....then he started us looking in the write direction.

**Moosepellet** · 06-02-2005, 07:24 PM

Hooker so what do you think about my question that I sent you earlier? Would like to get your imput on this, help me out? By the way how much gear do you run with year round?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 06-02-2005, 07:27 PM

Can you post the question in this thread? I'm a bit behind on answering PM's....I still have to get back to ant_8u's question on....something or other....Jumpstarting his cycle...or ancillary use...or something....sorry...I'm about a day behind....I had to run out and pick up some pins last night from a friend....and you know...got home late, etc...